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Re: Thunderbird filters

From gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Thunderbird filters
Date 2024-01-13 03:20 +0100
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On 1/12/24 15:58, David Christensen wrote:
> On 1/12/24 05:47, Arno Lehmann wrote:
>> Am 12.01.2024 um 14:31 schrieb gene heskett:
>>> I'm using tbird as an email agent, but it just did something both 
>>> strange and scary.
>>>
>>> Its filters have been working very spotty, only when the phase of the 
>>> moon was right. And it missed moving a msg from the nut list to the 
>>> local nut sbbdir, so I went to the filter menu and had it add a new 
>>> filter based on that msg.  Then told it to "run it now". Apparently a 
>>> big mistake!!!!!!
>>>
>>> tbird took about an hour, totally cleaned out the inbox at my mail 
>>> server of 4080 some messages, w/o adding or moving to anything, 
>>> absolutely zip to any local mail directory. No local msgs were played 
>>> with, but I've lost several hundred often used addresses that were 
>>> stashed in my inbox.
>>>
>>> Does anybody have a clue what did that?
>>
>> You will have to share the actual filter and actions you configured 
>> before anybopdy can develop any clue.
>>
>> Also, adding the actual version of thunderbird will be useful.

115.6.0 (64-bit)

>> And it may be relevant to have the account type, too -- pop3, imap, 
>> whatever server side, and how your local mail storage is organized.
imap
> 
> Until this bug is resolved, I suggest:
> 
> 1.  Shut down the computer.  If you have Ethernet, disconnect the cable.
> 
> 2.  Boot the computer.  Login to your user account.  If you have Wi-Fi 
> or any other network interfaces, disable them so that your comptuer 
> cannot connect to mail server.
> 
> 3.  Back up the $HOME/.thunderbird folder.
> 
> 4.  Start Thunderbird.  Go to Tools -> Message Filters and disable  all 
> filters.  Close Thunderbird.  Shut down your computer.
> 
> 5.  If you have Ethernet, connect the cable.  Boot your computer.  Login 
> to your user account.  If you have Wi-Fi or any other network 
> interfaces, enable them.
> 
> 6.  Start Thunderbird.  Verify that all message filters are disabled. 
> Verify that you can send and receive mail.
> 
> 
> Go to Thunderbird -> Edit -> Account Settings -> gheskett@shentel.net -> 
> Server Settings.  What is the value of the field "Server Type"?

IMAP MAIL Server

> Please run the following commands and post your console session:
> 
> 2024-01-12 11:49:46 root@taz ~
> # cat /etc/debian_version ; uname -a

12.4
Linux coyote 6.1.0-17-rt-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_RT Debian 6.1.69-1 
(2023-12-30) x86_64 GNU/Linux

> 11.8
> Linux taz 5.10.0-26-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.10.197-1 (2023-09-29) x86_64 
> GNU/Linux
> 
> 2024-01-12 11:49:56 root@taz ~
> # dpkg-query -W thunderbird

thunderbird     1:115.6.0-1~deb12u1

> thunderbird    1:115.6.0-1~deb11u1
> 
> 
> STFW for "thunderbird filter plain text dump", I found:
> 
> https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1147503
> 
> 
> Searching for the Thunderbird message filter configuration files on my 
> computer:
> 
> 2024-01-12 12:31:57 dpchrist@taz ~
> $ find .thunderbird/dpchrist -iname '*filter*'
> .thunderbird/dpchrist/Mail/Local Folders/msgFilterRules.dat
> .thunderbird/dpchrist/ImapMail/november.he-1.net/msgFilterRules.dat
> .thunderbird/dpchrist/ImapMail/november.he.net/msgFilterRules.dat
> 
I have no such directory structure where subbing my id for dpchrist 
might hide:
gene@coyote:~/.thunderbird$ ls
'Crash Reports'   f37v8icg.default-default   installs.ini  'Pending 
Pings'   profiles.ini   twpgj5qd.default

However, I do have in my home dir, an mbox file dated the 7th:
Which may result in a clue about my raid10, its msgs from SMARTCTL 
running as root to me I've never rx'd containing warnings about /dev/sde 
which is part of that raid10 that is the systems /home directory.
So I'll take a break here and go investigate that.

It does lead to another question, how do I incorporate that into tbird 
so I get important status msgs from root?.
> 
> My mail hosting provider is Hurricane Electric (he.het).  My account is 
> on the host november.he.net.  Looking at the contexts of above  files:
> 
> 2024-01-12 12:34:03 dpchrist@taz ~
> $ cat '.thunderbird/dpchrist/Mail/Local Folders/msgFilterRules.dat'
> version="9"
> logging="no"
> 
> 2024-01-12 12:34:54 dpchrist@taz ~
> $ cat .thunderbird/dpchrist/ImapMail/november.he-1.net/msgFilterRules.dat
> version="9"
> logging="no"
> 
> 2024-01-12 12:38:30 dpchrist@taz ~
> $ cat .thunderbird/dpchrist/ImapMail/november.he.net/msgFilterRules.dat
> version="9"
> logging="no"
> name="nuke"
> enabled="yes"
> type="17"
> action="Move to folder"
> actionValue="imap://dpchrist%40holgerdanske.com@november.he.net/nuke"
> action="Stop execution"
> condition="OR (from,contains,redacted-user@redacted-host) OR 
> (from,contains,@redacted-host) OR ...)"
> name="Inbox-copy"
> enabled="yes"
> type="17"
> action="Copy to folder"
> actionValue="imap://dpchrist%40holgerdanske.com@november.he.net/Inbox-copy"
> condition="ALL"
> 
> 
> Please post the contents of your Thunderbird message filter 
> configuration files.  Redact if you must, but understand that we cannot 
> debug what we cannot see.
> 
> 
> David
> 
> .
Appreciated David. If it happens again I will do as much of the above as 
I can, It does seem as if my input sorting filters are working 
noticeably better now.  This is an imap account, aliased to mail2world 
by my isp. I hve increased the period of the savr's whn editing a long 
reply, from 5 minutes to ten, but hve made no other changes.

How ever t-bird has so many hot keys that pop up some config page as I'm 
typing what looks like a legit sentence that I may have commanded 
something by continuing to type after the popup shows up as it steals 
the focus when it does. I wish there was some way to disable that crap 
until I actually want to do some config stuff.

Typed the above before I noted the mbox file.  Thanks David.  New thread 
when I find out whats wrong.

Take care, stat warm, dry and well.

Cheers, Gene Heskett.
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
  - Louis D. Brandeis

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call me puzzled. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-12 14:40 +0100
  Thunderbird filters (was: call me puzzled.) Arno Lehmann <al@its-lehmann.de> - 2024-01-12 14:50 +0100
    Re: Thunderbird filters David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2024-01-12 22:00 +0100
      Re: Thunderbird filters gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-13 03:20 +0100
        Re: Thunderbird filters David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2024-01-14 11:00 +0100
          Re: Thunderbird filters gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-14 17:00 +0100
            Re: Thunderbird filters Arno Lehmann <al@its-lehmann.de> - 2024-01-14 17:20 +0100
              Re: Thunderbird filters gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-14 23:10 +0100
                Re: Thunderbird filters Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-01-14 23:30 +0100
                Re: Thunderbird filters gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-15 02:00 +0100
                Re: Thunderbird filters Arno Lehmann <al@its-lehmann.de> - 2024-01-15 01:00 +0100
            Re: Thunderbird filters David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2024-01-15 02:30 +0100
              Re: Thunderbird filters Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-01-15 15:10 +0100
                Re: Thunderbird filters David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2024-01-15 22:30 +0100
                Re: Thunderbird filters Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-01-16 03:40 +0100
                Re: Thunderbird filters David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2024-01-16 06:40 +0100
                Re: Thunderbird filters Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-01-16 16:20 +0100
          Re: Thunderbird filters David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-01-14 17:20 +0100
            Re: Thunderbird filters gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-14 23:20 +0100
              Re: Thunderbird filters Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2024-01-15 00:20 +0100
              Re: Thunderbird filters David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-01-15 01:50 +0100
            Re: Thunderbird filters David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2024-01-15 02:20 +0100
        Re: Thunderbird filters Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-01-14 17:50 +0100
          Re: Thunderbird filters gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-14 23:20 +0100
  Re: call me puzzled. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-15 00:20 +0100
    Re: call me puzzled. David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-01-15 21:00 +0100
      Re: call me puzzled. <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-01-15 21:10 +0100
        Re: call me puzzled. David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-01-16 05:10 +0100
          Re: call me puzzled. <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-01-16 07:00 +0100
      Re: call me puzzled. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-16 00:20 +0100

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