Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]

Groups > linux.debian.user > #264615

Re: Release process notes [WAS Need clarifications about how to deal with the installed problematic kernel, linux-image-6.1.0-14-amd64 (6.1.64-1)]

Show all headers | View raw

Hi Andy

> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2023 at 3:13 PM
> From: "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Release process notes [WAS Re: Need clarifications about how to deal with the installed problematic kernel, linux-image-6.1.0-14-amd64 (6.1.64-1)]
>
>
> linux-image-[foo]-amd64 always points to the latest available kernel image
> for amd64 (and the same for other architectures). It's a metapackage
> that pulls in other packages
>
I thought the metapackage doesn't have the notation linux-image-[foo]-amd64. It is simply called linux-image-amd64 (as an example, please click the following link: https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/linux-image-amd64)

> When you first install, I suspect it's that package that makes sure your
> kernel version is up to date. When you update between point releases
> likewise.
>
> Hard removing the latest kernel _and_ the metapackage prevents you
> from updating to the buggy kernel but you have to do some tidying up
> afterwards. :)

I'm sorry but you lost me there.

Let's use linux-image-6.1.0-15-amd64 as an example for me to understand what you wrote above.

The metapackage of linux-image-6.1.0-15-amd64 is called linux-image-amd64 (cf. https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/linux-image-amd64)

I remember that when I upgrade packages, including kernels, in a terminal, the results of

sudo apt update

will always list

linux-image-amd64

Suppose linux-image-6.1.0-15-amd64 is installed successfully and I reboot my device.

A few days from now, I decide to remove linux-image-6.1.0-15-amd64 because it is buggy and so in a terminal, I type the commands:

sudo apt remove linux-image-6.1.0-15-amd64

or

sudo apt purge linux-image-6.1.0-15-amd64

sudo update-grub

sudo shutdown -r now

Based on the above commands, I have some questions for you. They are:

(1) Is it a "hard" or "soft" removal of linux-image-6.1.0-15-amd64?

(2) Is the metapackage linux-image-amd64 removed?

(3) What do you mean by your statement "prevents you from updating to the buggy kernel but you have to do some tidying up afterwards"?

Thanks, Andy for taking the time and effort to clarify my doubts.

Best regards.

Stella

Back to linux.debian.user | Previous | Next — Previous in thread | Next in thread | Find similar | Unroll thread

Thread

Need clarifications about how to deal with the installed  problematic kernel, linux-image-6.1.0-14-amd64 (6.1.64-1) Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2023-12-10 13:50 +0100
  Re: Need clarifications about how to deal with the installed  problematic kernel, linux-image-6.1.0-14-amd64 (6.1.64-1) Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2023-12-10 14:40 +0100
    Re: Need clarifications about how to deal with the installed  problematic kernel, linux-image-6.1.0-14-amd64 (6.1.64-1) Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2023-12-11 04:40 +0100
      Re: Need clarifications about how to deal with the installed  problematic kernel, linux-image-6.1.0-14-amd64 (6.1.64-1) Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-12-11 04:50 +0100
        Re: Need clarifications about how to deal with the installed  problematic kernel, linux-image-6.1.0-14-amd64 (6.1.64-1) Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2023-12-11 11:30 +0100
      Re: Need clarifications about how to deal with the installed  problematic kernel, linux-image-6.1.0-14-amd64 (6.1.64-1) "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2023-12-11 08:30 +0100
        Re: Need clarifications about how to deal with the installed  problematic kernel, linux-image-6.1.0-14-amd64 (6.1.64-1) Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2023-12-11 11:40 +0100
      Re: Need clarifications about how to deal with the installed  problematic kernel, linux-image-6.1.0-14-amd64 (6.1.64-1) Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2023-12-11 09:30 +0100
  Re: Need clarifications about how to deal with the installed  problematic kernel, linux-image-6.1.0-14-amd64 (6.1.64-1) "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2023-12-10 14:50 +0100
    Re: Need clarifications about how to deal with the installed  problematic kernel, linux-image-6.1.0-14-amd64 (6.1.64-1) Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-12-10 16:10 +0100
      Re: Need clarifications about how to deal with the installed  problematic kernel, linux-image-6.1.0-14-amd64 (6.1.64-1) Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-12-10 19:10 +0100
        Re: Need clarifications about how to deal with the installed  problematic kernel, linux-image-6.1.0-14-amd64 (6.1.64-1) Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2023-12-11 03:30 +0100
      Re: Need clarifications about how to deal with the installed  problematic kernel, linux-image-6.1.0-14-amd64 (6.1.64-1) Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2023-12-11 03:40 +0100
        Re: Need clarifications about how to deal with the installed  problematic kernel, linux-image-6.1.0-14-amd64 (6.1.64-1) Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-12-11 04:30 +0100
          Re: Need clarifications about how to deal with the installed  problematic kernel, linux-image-6.1.0-14-amd64 (6.1.64-1) Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2023-12-11 04:50 +0100
        Release process notes [WAS Re: Need clarifications about how to deal  with the installed problematic kernel, linux-image-6.1.0-14-amd64  (6.1.64-1)] "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2023-12-11 08:20 +0100
          Re: Release process notes [WAS  Need clarifications about how to  deal with the installed problematic kernel, linux-image-6.1.0-14-amd64  (6.1.64-1)] Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2023-12-11 14:40 +0100
            Re: Release process notes [WAS  Need clarifications about how to  deal with the installed problematic kernel, linux-image-6.1.0-14-amd64  (6.1.64-1)] Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-12-11 15:20 +0100
              Re: Release process notes [WAS  Need clarifications about how to  deal with the installed problematic kernel, linux-image-6.1.0-14-amd64  (6.1.64-1)] Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2023-12-11 16:00 +0100

csiph-web