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Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm?

From Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm?
Date 2023-11-14 22:40 +0100
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On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 10:21:13PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> On 2023-11-14 23:54:31 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote:
> > On 14/11/2023 19:00, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > > To my surprise, reportbug asks me to use bullseye-backports
> > > (= oldstable-backports) on my bookworm (= stable) machine:
> > 
> > Might it happen that you have bullseye-backports in apt sources.list?
> 
> No, and this is actually the complaint of reportbug, which wants
> me to add it.

That is NOT what it said, at all.

What it said was "Hey, I looked on the internets and I saw this other
kernel that might be newer than the one you're running, so maybe you
wanna check this other kernel first and see if it's still got the same
bug, before you report this."

But it's NOT actually newer than yours.  It's the same as yours.  It just
has a bigger, fancier version string because it's a backport.  So it
kinda looks newer if you are a not very bright software construct.

That's why I suggested ignoring the message.

> >     apt policy linux-image-amd64
> 
> linux-image-amd64:
>   Installed: 6.1.55-1
>   Candidate: 6.1.55-1
>   Version table:
>      6.5.10-1 500
>         500 https://ftp.debian.org/debian testing/main amd64 Packages
>         500 https://ftp.debian.org/debian unstable/main amd64 Packages
>  *** 6.1.55-1 900
>         900 https://ftp.debian.org/debian stable/main amd64 Packages
>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
>      6.1.52-1 900
>         900 https://security.debian.org/debian-security stable-security/main amd64 Packages

You are not running a "bookworm (= stable)" system.  You're running
unstable.  This doesn't change my analysis, but it's something you should
be aware of.

When you mix binary repositories of unstable, testing and bookworm,
you are by definition running unstable.  "But pinning!"  Nope.  It's an
unstable system, no matter how many hoops you jump through trying to
control the frankendebian.

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Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm? Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2023-11-14 13:10 +0100
  Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-11-14 13:40 +0100
  Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm? Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-11-14 18:00 +0100
    Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm? Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2023-11-14 22:30 +0100
      Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-11-14 22:40 +0100
        Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm? Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2023-11-14 23:10 +0100
          Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm? Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-11-15 04:20 +0100
            Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm? Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2023-11-15 18:10 +0100
          Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm? didier gaumet <didier.gaumet@gmail.com> - 2023-11-15 09:00 +0100
            Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm? Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2023-11-15 18:20 +0100
          Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm? Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2023-11-15 17:40 +0100
            Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm? Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2023-11-15 18:20 +0100
              Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm? Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2023-11-15 19:10 +0100
                Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm? Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2023-11-15 20:10 +0100
                Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2023-11-15 21:00 +0100
                Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm? Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2023-11-16 13:10 +0100
                Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2023-11-16 21:10 +0100
                Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm? Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2023-11-17 13:40 +0100
                Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2023-11-18 07:30 +0100
                Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm? Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2023-11-18 23:30 +0100
                Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2023-11-19 06:50 +0100
                Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm? Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2023-11-17 15:10 +0100
                Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2023-11-18 07:30 +0100
                Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-11-18 15:20 +0100
                Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm? steve <dlist@bluewin.ch> - 2023-11-18 15:40 +0100
                Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2023-11-19 06:50 +0100
                Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm? Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2023-11-18 23:40 +0100
                Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2023-11-19 06:50 +0100
                Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm? Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2023-11-20 11:20 +0100
                Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2023-11-21 04:40 +0100
                Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm? Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2023-11-16 13:30 +0100
  Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm? Tim Woodall <debianuser@woodall.me.uk> - 2023-11-19 06:00 +0100

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