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| From | Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | linux.debian.devel |
| Subject | Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal |
| Date | 2023-05-17 06:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <Gwh7b-9sgP-3@gated-at.bofh.it> (permalink) |
| References | <GwgNP-9s1z-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| Organization | The Eyrie |
Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org> writes: > * Largely via NMU, add a “t64” suffix to the name of runtime library > packages whose ABI changes on rebuild with the above flags. If an > affected library already has a different suffix (c102, c2, ldbl, g…), drop > it at this time. This is possibly me being too fiddly (and also I'm not 100% sure that I'll get to this in time), but ideally I'd like to do an upstream SONAME transition for one of my shared libraries (and probably will go ahead and change it for i386 as well, since I'm dubious of the need to run old binaries with new libraries in this specific case). What's the best way for me to do that such that I won't interfere with the more automated general transition? Will you somehow automatically detect packages that have already been transitioned? Or should I wait until the package has been automatically transitioned and *then* do an upstream transition? > Your thoughts? The one additional wrinkle is that there are packages that, due to historical error or unfortunate design choices, have on-disk data files that also encode the width of time_t. (I know of inn2, which is partly my fault, but presumably there are more.) Rebuilding that package with the 64-bit time_t flags would essentially introduce an RC bug (data loss) because it will treat its existing data files as corrupt. Do you have any idea how to deal with this case? (The LFS transition was kind of a mess and essentially required users to do manual data migration. This time around, maybe we'll manage to write a conversion program in time.) -- Russ Allbery (rra@debian.org) <https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>
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64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org> - 2023-05-17 06:20 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2023-05-17 06:40 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal YunQiang Su <wzssyqa@gmail.com> - 2023-05-17 07:50 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org> - 2023-05-18 22:10 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Florian Lohoff <f@zz.de> - 2023-05-22 10:30 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org> - 2023-05-18 07:10 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Marco d'Itri <md@Linux.IT> - 2023-05-18 12:10 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2023-05-18 16:50 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Wookey <wookey@wookware.org> - 2023-05-18 18:20 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Olaf Titz <olaf@bigred.inka.de> - 2023-06-26 20:50 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2023-05-18 16:50 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Christoph Biedl <debian.axhn@manchmal.in-ulm.de> - 2023-05-18 21:20 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2023-05-18 21:40 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2023-05-17 11:40 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org> - 2023-05-18 07:40 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2023-05-28 21:20 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Craig Small <csmall@debian.org> - 2023-05-17 14:30 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org> - 2023-05-17 17:50 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Guillem Jover <guillem@debian.org> - 2023-05-18 03:10 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org> - 2023-05-18 21:10 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Guillem Jover <guillem@debian.org> - 2023-05-19 05:40 +0200
i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal) Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2023-05-19 13:50 +0200
Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal) Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> - 2023-05-19 14:40 +0200
Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal) Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2023-05-19 16:10 +0200
Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal) "G. Branden Robinson" <g.branden.robinson@gmail.com> - 2023-05-19 16:30 +0200
Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal) Colin Watson <cjwatson@debian.org> - 2023-05-19 16:40 +0200
Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal) "G. Branden Robinson" <g.branden.robinson@gmail.com> - 2023-05-19 17:10 +0200
Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal) Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2023-05-19 19:40 +0200
Re: i386 in the future Ivan Shmakov <ivan@siamics.net> - 2023-05-25 13:30 +0200
Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal) Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> - 2023-05-19 17:40 +0200
Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal) Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org> - 2023-05-19 18:00 +0200
partial support for i386 (Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal)) Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org> - 2023-05-19 19:50 +0200
Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal) Jonathan Carter <jcc@debian.org> - 2023-05-22 12:30 +0200
Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal) Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues <josch@debian.org> - 2023-05-19 17:40 +0200
Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal) Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org> - 2023-05-19 18:00 +0200
Bug#1036358: release-notes: Debian 12 expected to be last release w/ installer for i386 Ansgar <ansgar@43-1.org> - 2023-05-19 17:40 +0200
Re: Bug#1036358: release-notes: Debian 12 expected to be last release w/ installer for i386 Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org> - 2023-05-19 19:40 +0200
Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal) "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2023-05-19 19:10 +0200
Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal) Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org> - 2023-05-19 19:30 +0200
Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal) Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org> - 2023-05-19 20:30 +0200
Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal) Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2023-05-19 19:40 +0200
Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal) Bjørn Mork <bjorn@mork.no> - 2023-05-19 21:30 +0200
Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal) Ansgar <ansgar@43-1.org> - 2023-05-19 22:00 +0200
Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal) Bjørn Mork <bjorn@mork.no> - 2023-05-19 22:40 +0200
Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal) Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org> - 2023-05-20 07:10 +0200
Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal) James Addison <jay@jp-hosting.net> - 2023-05-20 14:00 +0200
Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal) Diederik de Haas <didi.debian@cknow.org> - 2023-05-31 01:00 +0200
Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal) Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org> - 2023-05-31 06:00 +0200
Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal) John Goerzen <jgoerzen@complete.org> - 2023-05-31 14:40 +0200
Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal) Sven Hoexter <sven@stormbind.net> - 2023-05-31 16:20 +0200
Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal) Gunnar Wolf <gwolf@debian.org> - 2023-05-31 18:40 +0200
Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal) Wookey <wookey@wookware.org> - 2023-05-31 20:50 +0200
Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal) Ansgar <ansgar@43-1.org> - 2023-05-31 21:30 +0200
Re: Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal) Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues <josch@debian.org> - 2023-05-31 07:00 +0200
Re: Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal) James Addison <jay@jp-hosting.net> - 2023-05-31 10:30 +0200
Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal) Wouter Verhelst <wouter@debian.org> - 2023-05-31 12:50 +0200
Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal) Alexandre Detiste <alexandre.detiste@gmail.com> - 2023-05-31 13:10 +0200
Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal) Sven Hoexter <sven@stormbind.net> - 2023-05-31 16:10 +0200
Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal) Gunnar Wolf <gwolf@debian.org> - 2023-05-31 18:30 +0200
Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal) Diederik de Haas <didi.debian@cknow.org> - 2023-05-31 23:30 +0200
Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal) "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2023-06-01 00:20 +0200
Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal) Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl> - 2023-06-01 15:20 +0200
Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal) nick black <dankamongmen@gmail.com> - 2023-06-02 19:00 +0200
Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal) Wouter Verhelst <wouter@debian.org> - 2023-06-02 21:10 +0200
Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal) Diederik de Haas <didi.debian@cknow.org> - 2023-06-02 23:40 +0200
Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal) Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2023-06-01 03:40 +0200
Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal) "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu> - 2023-06-01 14:20 +0200
Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal) Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer <perezmeyer@gmail.com> - 2023-06-08 02:20 +0200
Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal) Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org> - 2023-05-19 17:50 +0200
Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal) Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2023-05-19 19:50 +0200
Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal) Guillem Jover <guillem@debian.org> - 2023-05-19 20:10 +0200
Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal) James Addison <jay@jp-hosting.net> - 2023-05-19 20:50 +0200
Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal) Ansgar <ansgar@43-1.org> - 2023-05-20 00:00 +0200
Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal) James Addison <jay@jp-hosting.net> - 2023-05-21 08:00 +0200
Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal) Roger Lynn <Roger@rilynn.me.uk> - 2023-05-26 01:30 +0200
Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal) James Addison <jay@jp-hosting.net> - 2023-05-26 06:50 +0200
Using i386 by mistake on 64-bit hardware [was Re: i386 in the future 32-bit archs: a proposal)] Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org> - 2023-05-20 09:20 +0200
Re: Using i386 by mistake on 64-bit hardware [was Re: i386 in the future 32-bit archs: a proposal)] Simon Richter <sjr@debian.org> - 2023-05-20 11:30 +0200
Re: Using i386 by mistake on 64-bit hardware [was Re: i386 in the future 32-bit archs: a proposal)] Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl> - 2023-05-20 18:50 +0200
Re: Using i386 by mistake on 64-bit hardware [was Re: i386 in the future 32-bit archs: a proposal)] Stephen Kitt <skitt@debian.org> - 2023-05-21 20:00 +0200
Re: Using i386 by mistake on 64-bit hardware [was Re: i386 in the future 32-bit archs: a proposal)] James Addison <jay@jp-hosting.net> - 2023-05-22 14:30 +0200
Re: i386 in the future Wookey <wookey@wookware.org> - 2023-05-20 05:30 +0200
Re: i386 in the future Ansgar <ansgar@43-1.org> - 2023-05-20 10:00 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org> - 2023-05-23 03:20 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Guillem Jover <guillem@debian.org> - 2023-06-08 04:10 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org> - 2023-06-14 06:50 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Guillem Jover <guillem@debian.org> - 2023-06-17 17:50 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org> - 2023-05-18 08:40 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org> - 2023-05-20 02:30 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Wookey <wookey@wookware.org> - 2023-05-20 13:30 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Andreas Metzler <ametzler@bebt.de> - 2023-05-20 17:50 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org> - 2023-05-23 03:30 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org> - 2023-05-23 03:30 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2023-06-06 09:40 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> - 2023-06-06 12:50 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> - 2023-06-06 13:10 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Marco d'Itri <md@Linux.IT> - 2023-06-06 17:30 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Gunnar Wolf <gwolf@debian.org> - 2023-06-06 20:30 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> - 2023-06-06 21:50 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Alexis Murzeau <amubtdx@gmail.com> - 2023-06-06 21:50 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> - 2023-06-08 21:10 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2023-06-07 06:40 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Andreas Metzler <ametzler@bebt.de> - 2023-06-08 07:10 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> - 2023-06-08 21:20 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2023-06-08 07:40 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Bastien ROUCARIES <roucaries.bastien@gmail.com> - 2023-06-08 08:40 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Hakan Bayındır <hakan@bayindir.org> - 2023-06-08 10:50 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2023-06-08 11:00 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2023-06-09 06:00 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2023-06-09 11:30 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Ansgar <ansgar@43-1.org> - 2023-06-09 11:40 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Bastian Blank <waldi@debian.org> - 2023-06-08 11:40 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> - 2023-06-08 11:40 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Gunnar Wolf <gwolf@debian.org> - 2023-06-08 17:10 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal nick black <dankamongmen@gmail.com> - 2023-06-09 01:30 +0200
Re: multiarch vs. multilib Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> - 2023-06-09 11:00 +0200
Re: multiarch vs. multilib nick black <dankamongmen@gmail.com> - 2023-06-11 10:00 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2023-06-09 05:20 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> - 2023-06-09 11:30 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2023-06-09 06:30 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Bastian Blank <waldi@debian.org> - 2023-06-09 08:00 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Wookey <wookey@wookware.org> - 2023-07-05 18:30 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org> - 2023-06-06 21:50 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2023-06-07 06:40 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2023-06-08 19:20 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2023-06-08 20:00 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org> - 2023-06-08 21:00 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Thorsten Glaser <tg@debian.org> - 2023-06-09 19:00 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Aurelien Jarno <aurel32@debian.org> - 2023-06-26 21:40 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal James Addison <jay@jp-hosting.net> - 2023-06-27 10:20 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> - 2023-07-06 11:40 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Thorsten Glaser <tg@debian.org> - 2023-07-06 18:50 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> - 2023-07-06 23:40 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Thorsten Glaser <tg@debian.org> - 2023-07-07 01:40 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2023-07-06 22:50 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2023-06-07 06:40 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Sune Vuorela <nospam@vuorela.dk> - 2023-06-07 09:30 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal "Peter Van Eynde" <pvaneynd@debian.org> - 2023-06-07 10:30 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> - 2023-06-07 12:50 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2023-06-07 13:10 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Thorsten Glaser <tg@debian.org> - 2023-07-06 19:00 +0200
Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org> - 2023-07-06 19:20 +0200
[i386] adlibtracker2 and fp-units-i386 Ivan Shmakov <ivan@siamics.net> - 2023-06-07 15:40 +0200
Constructive contributions (was: Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal) Jonathan Carter <jcc@debian.org> - 2023-06-09 13:30 +0200
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