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Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages kept back

From Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages kept back
Date 2023-03-27 14:20 +0200
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On 2023-03-27 07:49:13 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> 2) "apt-get upgrade" does not install new packages unless you supply the
>    --with-new-pkgs option.  "apt upgrade" acts as if you had supplied it.
>    (This is configurable.)

FYI, I prefer to do the upgrades of my Debian/unstable machines with
aptitude (via its TUI): that way, new packages are automatically
installed when needed, and automatically installed packages are
removed when they are no longer used (but if one wants to keep such
a package, one can mark it as manually installed). This seems to be
what makes most sense.

[...]
> Finally, there's one obscure but important difference that only arises in
> specific situations.  Quoting from <https://wiki.debian.org/NewInBuster>:
> 
>     If you previously ran buster during its time as "testing", you may
>     see this error when you run apt-get update:
> 
>     E: Repository 'http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian buster InRelease' changed
>     its 'Suite' value from 'testing' to 'stable'
>     N: This must be accepted explicitly before updates for this repository
>     can be applied. See apt-secure(8) manpage for details.
> 
>     In order to accept this change, you should run apt update instead,
>     at least one time. apt will prompt you for confirmation, and then
>     everything proceeds normally.
> 
> I.e. there are some situations where apt will prompt you for something
> whereas apt-get will just fail without prompting you (and gives you a
> bogus reference to lead you on a wild goose chase).  I don't know what
> all those possible situations are, but the above is one of them.

This seems similar to aptitude:

  https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1033359

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Buster => Bullseye: packages kept back Jesper Dybdal <jd-debian-user@dybdal.dk> - 2023-03-26 11:20 +0200
  Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages kept back Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2023-03-26 11:30 +0200
  Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages kept back davidson <davidson@freevolt.org> - 2023-03-26 13:20 +0200
    Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages kept back Jesper Dybdal <jd-debian-user@dybdal.dk> - 2023-03-26 15:00 +0200
      Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages kept back davidson <davidson@freevolt.org> - 2023-03-27 11:10 +0200
        Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages kept back Jesper Dybdal <jd-debian-user@dybdal.dk> - 2023-03-27 11:30 +0200
          Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages kept back David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2023-03-27 16:50 +0200
          Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages kept back davidson <davidson@freevolt.org> - 2023-03-28 11:00 +0200
            Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages kept back Jesper Dybdal <jd-debian-user@dybdal.dk> - 2023-03-28 12:30 +0200
        Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages kept back Jesper Dybdal <jd-debian-user@dybdal.dk> - 2023-03-27 16:50 +0200
  Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages kept back Cindy Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2023-03-26 17:40 +0200
    Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages kept back Jesper Dybdal <jd-debian-user@dybdal.dk> - 2023-03-26 19:30 +0200
  Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages kept back David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2023-03-26 20:20 +0200
    Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages kept back Jesper Dybdal <jd-debian-user@dybdal.dk> - 2023-03-27 00:30 +0200
  Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages kept back Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2023-03-26 23:20 +0200
    Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages kept back Jesper Dybdal <jd-debian-user@dybdal.dk> - 2023-03-27 00:30 +0200
      Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages kept back Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2023-03-27 13:30 +0200
        Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages kept back Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-03-27 13:50 +0200
          Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages kept back Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2023-03-27 14:20 +0200
            Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages kept back Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-03-27 14:30 +0200
          Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages kept back Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2023-03-27 15:10 +0200
            Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages kept back Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2023-03-27 15:20 +0200
              Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages kept back gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-03-27 16:10 +0200
                Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages kept back <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-03-27 17:40 +0200
                Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages kept back gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-03-27 20:10 +0200
                Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages kept back <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-03-28 07:10 +0200
                Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages kept back gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-03-28 17:10 +0200
                alternative views of PNG (was Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages kept  back) davidson <davidson@freevolt.org> - 2023-03-28 13:00 +0200
                Re: alternative views of PNG (was Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages  keptback) gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-03-28 17:40 +0200
                Re: alternative views of PNG (was Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages  keptback) gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-03-28 18:50 +0200
                Re: alternative views of PNG (was Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages  keptback) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-03-28 20:00 +0200
                Re: alternative views of PNG (was Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages  keptback) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-03-28 20:00 +0200
                Re: alternative views of PNG (was Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages  keptback) davidson <davidson@freevolt.org> - 2023-03-29 09:30 +0200
              Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages kept back Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2023-04-03 13:50 +0200
            Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages kept back Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-03-27 16:10 +0200
              Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages kept back davidson <davidson@freevolt.org> - 2023-03-28 08:30 +0200
                apt colored output (was Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages kept  back) davidson <davidson@freevolt.org> - 2023-04-03 08:00 +0200
      Re: Buster => Bullseye: packages kept back Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2023-03-28 11:30 +0200

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