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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
| Subject | Re: On the on-topicness of tape drives |
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| Date | 2026-11-06 20:51 +0000 |
On 2026-11-06, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
> On 11/5/26 21:41, Rich wrote:
>
>> c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Tape is slow - often VERY VERY slow - but it can still deliver an
>>> acceptable storage-per-dollar figure in some applications.
>>
>> Yes, although that comes with a very big "it depends" star next to it.
>> For random access, yes, very very slow.
>
> Kinda forget "RA" ...
>
> But, back in the day, the CPUs were so slow and
> multi-user so clunky ... even 'temporary' storage
> of intermediate results to tapes was acceptable.
Don't underestimate sequential processing. Sophisticated
techniques were developed that didn't need random access.
You make the most of what you have.
Many tape drives could read tape backwards, which was
exploited by, e.g., sort programs. This could save the
minute or two it would take to rewind the tape before
starting the next pass.
>> And that 40TB of tape costs way less than two 20TB hard drives to store
>> the same 40TB.
>
> "Cloud" can be OK too ... but, if smart, DO
> always keep a LOCAL backup (or two or three).
> Vlad or Xi or Kim are gonna disappear all that
> 'cloud' shit Real Soon Now. The cyber-war
> is ON. The commiesocialistDems LOVE Xi and Kim,
> won't do a single thing to thwart them.
Your #1 right-winger seems to like Kim a lot too.
But we don't need him - a friend lost a lot of
precious photos due to a screw-up at his cloud
provider that had nothing to do with Vlad or Xi
or whoever.
> Then there will be much crying and screaming
> and gnashing of teeth and infidels burnt at
> the stake and desolation and ...........
As long as we can find a scapegoat...
> What WOULD happen to global biz if all the
> cloud apps/storage (and backup storage) was
> corrupted at a stroke ? SO many totally
> rely on M$ cloud shit for ALL biz needs.
> But if it Goes Away ... even for a week or
> for months (or forever) ........
Maybe Lord Bill will decide to pull the plug.
Temporarily, anyway. There are lots of ransom
opportunities.
> No, they WON'T be 'ready for it' - that much is
> obvious. 'Cloud' has become a religion - faith.
I should get one of those T-shirts that says,
There is no Cloud.
It's just someone else's computer.
--
/~\ Charlie Gibbs | Too many people have become
\ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | dependent on the Internet.
X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | It Clouds their thinking.
/ \ if you read it the right way. |
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On the on-topicness of tape drives (was: Re: Is This An Old Folks Home?) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-11-04 23:47 +0000
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