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Bug#1030189: Let regular users know need to put non-free-firmware in sources.list

From Eric Cooper <ecc@cmu.edu>
Newsgroups linux.debian.bugs.dist, linux.debian.doc
Subject Bug#1030189: Let regular users know need to put non-free-firmware in sources.list
Date 2023-02-02 17:00 +0100
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On Wed, Feb 1, 2023 at 3:36 PM Sven Joachim <svenjoac@gmx.de> wrote:
> The release notes for Bookworm should and will certainly mention that.
> I think this is where this bug is actually actionable, so I am
> reassigning it there.
>
> > Yes, he should be regularly subscribed to debian-user, but that's too
> > much.
>
> I have sent a heads-up message[1] there a few days ago, but as you said it
> got lost in all the other topics discussed there.
>
> > Or https://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/, but that's too many boring
> > messages too.
>
> There was not even a prominent notice there, at least not in the past
> few weeks.
>
> > Yes, he uses apt-listchanges, but that won't tell him this.
> >
> > So I'm saying that Debian needs a mechanism to have his computer tell
> > him to do this.
> >
> > Maybe the next time he uses apt*, somehow the system should tell him...
>
> Somehow, but how exactly?  Good question that was brought up on
> debian-devel[2], alas without replies yet.

I got bitten by this, and only noticed it when my system's firmware
packages showed up in the output of "apt list ~g".
I'm sure I'm missing something, but why weren't transitional packages left
in non-free that depend on the new versions in non-free-firmware? Perhaps
they could also depend on a source-list-modifying package so the next
upgrade doesn't break.

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Bug#1030189: Let regular users know need to put non-free-firmware in sources.list Dan Jacobson <jidanni@jidanni.org> - 2023-02-01 01:40 +0100
  Bug#1030189: Let regular users know need to put non-free-firmware in sources.list IOhannes m zmölnig <umlaeute@debian.org> - 2023-02-01 20:20 +0100
    Bug#1030189: Let regular users know need to put non-free-firmware in sources.list Ansgar <ansgar@43-1.org> - 2023-02-01 21:00 +0100
      Bug#1030189: Let regular users know need to put non-free-firmware in sources.list IOhannes m zmölnig (Debian/GNU)  <umlaeute@debian.org> - 2023-02-01 21:50 +0100
  Bug#1030189: Let regular users know need to put non-free-firmware in sources.list Sven Joachim <svenjoac@gmx.de> - 2023-02-01 21:40 +0100
    Bug#1030189: Let regular users know need to put non-free-firmware in sources.list Jérémy Lal <kapouer@melix.org> - 2023-02-01 22:20 +0100
      Bug#1030189: Let regular users know need to put non-free-firmware in sources.list Osamu Aoki <osamu@debian.org> - 2023-02-05 04:10 +0100
    Bug#1030189: Let regular users know need to put non-free-firmware in sources.list David Kalnischkies <david@kalnischkies.de> - 2023-02-01 23:40 +0100
    Bug#1030189: Let regular users know need to put non-free-firmware in sources.list Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2023-02-02 06:30 +0100
    Bug#1030189: Let regular users know need to put non-free-firmware in sources.list Eric Cooper <ecc@cmu.edu> - 2023-02-02 17:00 +0100
  Bug#1030189: Let regular users know need to put non-free-firmware in sources.list Dan Jacobson <jidanni@jidanni.org> - 2023-02-03 04:40 +0100

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