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Re: Debian installer with a newer kernel

From "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Debian installer with a newer kernel
Date 2022-04-14 12:10 +0200
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On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 11:16:00AM +0200, Christian Britz wrote:
> Hello dear Debianists,
> 
> if a new system has at least basic hardware support by the kernel
> provided by the Debian installer, you can solve many hardware problems
> by installing a newer kernel from backports after the system setup.
> 
> Is there a solution for the case where the installer kernel is too old
> for core components like storage system support? Is there a way to use
> the installer itself with a backports kernel?
> 
> Regards,
> Christian
> -- 
> http://www.cb-fraggle.de
>

This is a hard one: the kernel, initial ram disk and firmware are all fairly
closely aligned in the install medium.

If you can get through much of the installer with the d-i kernel:

You may be able to drop down to a shell in the target environment - edit /etc/apt/sources.list to add the backports repository.

At the end, just before you exit - drop to the target shell once again and apt
install the new kernel and newer firmware.

Rerun the grub-install step just to check - then exit.

As you reboot, so the backports kernel should be first.

If graphics card configuration/firmware is an issue: text mode expert install
may well help - the text mode install tries to find compatible VESA modes.

In some sense: this is the issue of very new hardware - for any distribution -
and there's no good clear answer. Debian - on a two year release cycle now,
more or less - is at least ahead of Red Hat where the distribution may have
to be kept stable in kernel version and ABI but  current for ten years
afterwards.

All the very best, as ever,

Andy Cater

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Debian installer with a newer kernel Christian Britz <cbritz@t-online.de> - 2022-04-14 11:20 +0200
  Re: Debian installer with a newer kernel "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2022-04-14 12:10 +0200
    Re: Debian installer with a newer kernel Christian Britz <cbritz@t-online.de> - 2022-04-14 12:30 +0200
      Re: Debian installer with a newer kernel Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2022-04-14 17:20 +0200
        Re: Debian installer with a newer kernel Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2022-04-14 20:20 +0200
          Re: Debian installer with a newer kernel Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2022-04-14 20:50 +0200

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