Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones

From	Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones
Date	2022-04-08 22:30 +0200
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On Fri, Apr 08, 2022 at 08:52:26PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> You didn't like my bus analogy, did you?

I don't think it's a very good analogy for this situation.

> What makes you think that knowing an IP address tells you where
> any machine of any description is located?

Because the device is (was) sitting 50 feet away from me, and even
if the people who installed it had not been kind enough to print some
kind of config page and attach it to the front of the printer, I could
have Googled the printer's model number and found out how to print the
printer's own config page myself.  Or else how to scroll through the
printer's control panel menus to find its IP address that way.

The printer's brand, model and IP address are the extremely concrete
pieces of information that I can readily acquire and compare.  Software
that refuses to divulge useful information is not acting in a helpful
manner.

Also, completely coincidentally, I happen to know how the corporate
network is subdivided -- at least in the building that I work in.
Each floor has a /23 network assigned to it.  So, from the IP address
alone, I can at least tell whether the device is on my floor.  If I
need more specific location info than that, I would either have to call
someone, or search manually.

> Trial and error is not neeed. Just an IT department with basic
> skills and the intention to help users would suffice.

I wonder how many IT departments match both parts of that description.

In any case, "avahi-browse -rt _ipp._tcp" was helpful and useful, so
thank you for that.  I've typed it into my notes for next time I need it.

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CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2022-04-08 18:20 +0200
  Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2022-04-08 19:00 +0200
    Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2022-04-08 19:10 +0200
      Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2022-04-08 19:30 +0200
        Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones didier gaumet <didier.gaumet@gmail.com> - 2022-04-08 20:30 +0200
          Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2022-04-08 21:30 +0200
            Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2022-04-08 22:10 +0200
            Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2022-04-08 23:10 +0200
          Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2022-04-08 21:40 +0200
            Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2022-04-08 21:40 +0200
        Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones Fred <fred@blakemfg.com> - 2022-04-08 21:40 +0200
        Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2022-04-09 17:40 +0200
        Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2022-04-10 14:50 +0200
          Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2022-04-10 15:30 +0200
            Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2022-04-10 16:00 +0200
              Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2022-04-10 16:10 +0200
                Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2022-04-10 16:40 +0200
              Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2022-04-10 23:00 +0200
          Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-04-10 15:50 +0200
            Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2022-04-10 19:50 +0200
              Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-04-10 20:40 +0200
                Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-04-10 21:30 +0200
                Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2022-04-10 21:50 +0200
                Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2022-04-10 21:30 +0200
        Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2022-04-11 16:50 +0200
          Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2022-04-11 18:00 +0200
            Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2022-04-11 18:50 +0200
              Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2022-04-11 19:10 +0200
                Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2022-04-11 19:50 +0200
                Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2022-04-11 20:00 +0200
                Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2022-04-11 20:30 +0200
                Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones "Gareth Evans" <donotspam@fastmail.fm> - 2022-04-11 21:10 +0200
    Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2022-04-08 21:20 +0200
      Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2022-04-08 22:10 +0200
        Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2022-04-09 01:10 +0200
          Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2022-04-09 01:40 +0200
          Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2022-04-09 09:20 +0200
  Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2022-04-08 21:10 +0200
    Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2022-04-08 21:30 +0200
      Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2022-04-08 21:40 +0200
      Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2022-04-08 22:00 +0200
        Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2022-04-08 22:30 +0200
          Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2022-04-09 00:50 +0200
            Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2022-04-09 01:50 +0200
              Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2022-04-09 14:00 +0200
                Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2022-04-09 15:40 +0200
                Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2022-04-10 02:30 +0200
                Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2022-04-10 07:00 +0200
                Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-04-10 08:40 +0200
                Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2022-04-10 11:50 +0200
                Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-04-10 12:10 +0200
                Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2022-04-10 13:10 +0200
                Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2022-04-10 13:20 +0200
                Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-04-10 14:00 +0200
                Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2022-04-10 14:20 +0200
                Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2022-04-10 14:20 +0200
                Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2022-04-10 15:40 +0200
                Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-04-10 14:00 +0200
                Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2022-04-10 13:50 +0200
                Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-04-10 14:10 +0200
                Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2022-04-10 14:50 +0200
                Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2022-04-10 15:00 +0200
                Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2022-04-10 15:40 +0200
                Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2022-04-10 16:50 +0200
                Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2022-04-10 14:40 +0200
                Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2022-04-10 15:00 +0200
                Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2022-04-10 20:30 +0200
                Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2022-04-10 21:10 +0200
            Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2022-04-09 03:00 +0200
              Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2022-04-09 14:10 +0200
        Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2022-04-08 22:30 +0200
        On IP addresses and bus tripe [was: CUPS - how to match autodetected  printers to physical ones] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-04-09 08:40 +0200
          Re: On IP addresses and bus tripe [was: CUPS - how to match  autodetected printers to physical ones] Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2022-04-09 13:50 +0200
            Re: On IP addresses and bus tripe [was: CUPS - how to match  autodetected printers to physical ones] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-04-09 14:10 +0200
    Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2022-04-08 21:30 +0200

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