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Bug#1017739: emacs-lucid cannot start after upgrade

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Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>>>     emacs -e '(message "%S" comp-native-load-path)'
>
> Sorry, that should have been:
>
>     emacs --eval '(message "%S" comp-native-load-path)'
>
> (which you can then try with `-q` and friends if needed).
>
>> I'm a bit mystified as to why everyone else on Debian isn't seeing this.
>> I would have assumed it must be something in my startup files that is
>> incompatible with the latest release of Emacs, except I thought -q
>> --no-site-file should completely disable loading anything from my local
>> configuration.
>
> My crystal ball suggests maybe your ~/.emacs.d is marked as read-only?

I don't know if this helps, but in addition to the recent issue we've
identified where not having emacs-el installed can cause emacs from the
current 28 packages to segfault on startup, people just figured out that
if you try to install emacs via "su apt install emacs" (note the lack of
a "-" argument to su) from a non-root account, emacs can end up failing
for that account because the install ends up creating root-only
directories (for I think the eln files, etc.) in ~.

I'm not sure whether that's something that we'd expect to support
(i.e. apt installs via sudo without -i or su without -), but I wanted to
mention it since it's been reported (I think) more than once, and in
case it indicates something that emacs might want to change (use of USER
vs HOME, etc.).

No personal position there right now either way.

Thanks
-- 
Rob Browning
rlb @defaultvalue.org and @debian.org
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Bug#1017739: emacs-lucid cannot start after upgrade Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2022-08-19 20:50 +0200
  Bug#1017739: emacs-lucid cannot start after upgrade Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2022-08-22 01:40 +0200
    Bug#1017739: emacs-lucid cannot start after upgrade Andrea Corallo <akrl@sdf.org> - 2022-08-22 11:30 +0200
  Bug#1017739: emacs-lucid cannot start after upgrade Adam Lackorzynski <adam@os.inf.tu-dresden.de> - 2022-08-22 21:30 +0200
  Bug#1017739: emacs-lucid cannot start after upgrade Rob Browning <rlb@defaultvalue.org> - 2022-08-23 06:30 +0200
    Bug#1017739: emacs-lucid cannot start after upgrade Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2022-08-23 06:50 +0200
      Bug#1017739: emacs-lucid cannot start after upgrade Rob Browning <rlb@defaultvalue.org> - 2022-08-23 07:10 +0200
  Bug#1017739: emacs-lucid cannot start after upgrade Adam Lackorzynski <adam@os.inf.tu-dresden.de> - 2022-08-23 11:10 +0200
  Bug#1017739: emacs-lucid cannot start after upgrade Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2022-08-23 16:40 +0200
    Bug#1017739: emacs-lucid cannot start after upgrade Rob Browning <rlb@defaultvalue.org> - 2022-08-24 04:00 +0200
      Bug#1017739: emacs-lucid cannot start after upgrade Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2022-08-24 04:10 +0200
        Bug#1017739: emacs-lucid cannot start after upgrade Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2022-08-24 05:10 +0200
          Bug#1017739: emacs-lucid cannot start after upgrade Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2022-08-24 14:00 +0200
          Bug#1017739: emacs-lucid cannot start after upgrade David Bremner <bremner@debian.org> - 2022-09-12 00:20 +0200
            Bug#1017739: emacs-lucid cannot start after upgrade Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2022-09-12 03:40 +0200
              Bug#1017739: emacs-lucid cannot start after upgrade David Bremner <bremner@debian.org> - 2022-09-13 02:10 +0200

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