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Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o

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Christian Kastner <ckk@debian.org> wrote on 23/03/2022 at 23:17:04+0100:

> On 2022-03-23 21:27, Philip Hands wrote:
>> I note that nobody in this discussion so far has tried to argue that
>> we'll somehow be poorer for being less exposed to his writings 
>
> It's not fair to dismiss his frequent KDE and TeX reports like hat.
>
>> but only that some procedure might not have been followed properly.
>
> Observing processes and procedures is what gives us confidence in a fair
> and just system. That's obviously important to many of us, otherwise we
> wouldn't have so many discussions about and votes on them.
>
> I find your off-handed dismissal ("only") of this extremely ignorant and
> disrespectful to those of us to whom this is important, to the point of
> being offensive.
>
> [Note that I'm not speaking for or against any action taken here, as
> that is completely irrelevant to my point.]
>
>> P.S. the resort to an argument about procedure does seem very
>> reminiscent of the recently referenced wartime sabotage manual.
>
> This is such a toxic comment.
>
> There is a perfectly reasonable explanation for why people value
> procedures regarding punitive measures -- see above -- and not only do
> you take a jab at those people, you actually have the gall to insinuate
> that this might be an act of deliberate sabotage.
>
> Your conduct blatantly and obviously violates the "be respectful" and
> "assume good faith" rules of our community, and it's entirely upsetting
> to see your confidence in believing that you are actually championing
> these principles with your message, when in fact you are demonstrating
> utter disregard for them.

Please, all, chill out.

-- 
PEB

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Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2022-03-22 22:10 +0100
  Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2022-03-23 01:00 +0100
    Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Martina Ferrari <tina@debian.org> - 2022-03-23 19:20 +0100
      Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2022-03-24 00:30 +0100
  Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Jonathan Carter <jcc@debian.org> - 2022-03-23 08:30 +0100
    Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Ingo Jürgensmann <ij@2022.bluespice.org> - 2022-03-23 09:10 +0100
      Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Jonathan Carter <jcc@debian.org> - 2022-03-23 10:10 +0100
        Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Timo Röhling <roehling@debian.org> - 2022-03-23 14:00 +0100
        Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Ingo Jürgensmann <ij@2022.bluespice.org> - 2022-03-23 14:00 +0100
          Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2022-04-08 12:50 +0200
        Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Tiago Bortoletto Vaz <tiago@debian.org> - 2022-03-23 14:20 +0100
    Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Martin Steigerwald <martin@lichtvoll.de> - 2022-03-23 09:10 +0100
      Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Martin Steigerwald <martin@lichtvoll.de> - 2022-03-23 10:00 +0100
        Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Ingo Jürgensmann <ij@2022.bluespice.org> - 2022-03-23 12:40 +0100
          Re: Is Debian sending people away? Antonio Terceiro <terceiro@debian.org> - 2022-03-23 14:40 +0100
            Re: Is Debian sending people away? Andrey Rahmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2022-03-23 15:10 +0100
          Is Debian sending people away? Antonio Terceiro <terceiro@debian.org> - 2022-03-23 15:10 +0100
            Re: Is Debian sending people away? Diederik de Haas <didi.debian@cknow.org> - 2022-03-23 17:20 +0100
    Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl> - 2022-03-23 14:00 +0100
      Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Dominik George <natureshadow@debian.org> - 2022-03-23 15:40 +0100
        Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Louis-Philippe Véronneau <pollo@debian.org> - 2022-03-23 17:30 +0100
          Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Dominik George <natureshadow@debian.org> - 2022-03-23 18:10 +0100
    Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl> - 2022-03-23 15:00 +0100
      Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Wouter Verhelst <wouter@debian.org> - 2022-03-23 16:10 +0100
        Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Paul Tagliamonte <paultag@debian.org> - 2022-03-23 16:20 +0100
        Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Ulrike Uhlig <u@451f.org> - 2022-03-23 17:20 +0100
          Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Martin Steigerwald <martin@lichtvoll.de> - 2022-03-23 17:30 +0100
        Re: Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Wouter Verhelst <w@uter.be> - 2022-03-24 10:20 +0100
      Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Jonathan Carter <jcc@debian.org> - 2022-03-23 16:20 +0100
      Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Joerg Jaspert <joerg@debian.org> - 2022-03-23 21:30 +0100
      Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Philip Hands <phil@hands.com> - 2022-03-23 21:40 +0100
        Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Christian Kastner <ckk@debian.org> - 2022-03-23 23:30 +0100
          Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2022-03-24 00:50 +0100
        Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Felix Lechner <felix.lechner@lease-up.com> - 2022-03-24 02:10 +0100
  Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-03-23 08:30 +0100

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