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Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o

From Martin Steigerwald <martin@lichtvoll.de>
Newsgroups linux.debian.project
Subject Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o
Date 2022-03-23 17:30 +0100
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Ulrike Uhlig - 23.03.22, 17:02:14 CET:
> On a sidenote, I would like to urge the people who did so in this
> thread to stop using the word "toxic" to describe that someone is
> being called out for bullying, abusive behavior, discriminatory, or
> (passive-)agressive remarks. This is victim reversal.

This is disagreement.

You state, as a matter of fact, who is the offender and who is victim 
here.

Yet, beyond doubt, from what I see here, there is unresolved 
disagreement whether what you state as fact is actually factually true.

So what you share is a point of view. *One* side of the story.

Not a fact.

Calling a fact, what is not a fact, may in itself be abusive and may in 
itself make someone else a victim.

I more and more get the impression that all of this is much more about 
power, not about truth.

-- 
Martin

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Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2022-03-22 22:10 +0100
  Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2022-03-23 01:00 +0100
    Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Martina Ferrari <tina@debian.org> - 2022-03-23 19:20 +0100
      Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2022-03-24 00:30 +0100
  Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Jonathan Carter <jcc@debian.org> - 2022-03-23 08:30 +0100
    Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Ingo Jürgensmann <ij@2022.bluespice.org> - 2022-03-23 09:10 +0100
      Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Jonathan Carter <jcc@debian.org> - 2022-03-23 10:10 +0100
        Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Timo Röhling <roehling@debian.org> - 2022-03-23 14:00 +0100
        Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Ingo Jürgensmann <ij@2022.bluespice.org> - 2022-03-23 14:00 +0100
          Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2022-04-08 12:50 +0200
        Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Tiago Bortoletto Vaz <tiago@debian.org> - 2022-03-23 14:20 +0100
    Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Martin Steigerwald <martin@lichtvoll.de> - 2022-03-23 09:10 +0100
      Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Martin Steigerwald <martin@lichtvoll.de> - 2022-03-23 10:00 +0100
        Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Ingo Jürgensmann <ij@2022.bluespice.org> - 2022-03-23 12:40 +0100
          Re: Is Debian sending people away? Antonio Terceiro <terceiro@debian.org> - 2022-03-23 14:40 +0100
            Re: Is Debian sending people away? Andrey Rahmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2022-03-23 15:10 +0100
          Is Debian sending people away? Antonio Terceiro <terceiro@debian.org> - 2022-03-23 15:10 +0100
            Re: Is Debian sending people away? Diederik de Haas <didi.debian@cknow.org> - 2022-03-23 17:20 +0100
    Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl> - 2022-03-23 14:00 +0100
      Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Dominik George <natureshadow@debian.org> - 2022-03-23 15:40 +0100
        Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Louis-Philippe Véronneau <pollo@debian.org> - 2022-03-23 17:30 +0100
          Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Dominik George <natureshadow@debian.org> - 2022-03-23 18:10 +0100
    Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl> - 2022-03-23 15:00 +0100
      Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Wouter Verhelst <wouter@debian.org> - 2022-03-23 16:10 +0100
        Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Paul Tagliamonte <paultag@debian.org> - 2022-03-23 16:20 +0100
        Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Ulrike Uhlig <u@451f.org> - 2022-03-23 17:20 +0100
          Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Martin Steigerwald <martin@lichtvoll.de> - 2022-03-23 17:30 +0100
        Re: Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Wouter Verhelst <w@uter.be> - 2022-03-24 10:20 +0100
      Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Jonathan Carter <jcc@debian.org> - 2022-03-23 16:20 +0100
      Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Joerg Jaspert <joerg@debian.org> - 2022-03-23 21:30 +0100
      Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Philip Hands <phil@hands.com> - 2022-03-23 21:40 +0100
        Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Christian Kastner <ckk@debian.org> - 2022-03-23 23:30 +0100
          Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2022-03-24 00:50 +0100
        Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o Felix Lechner <felix.lechner@lease-up.com> - 2022-03-24 02:10 +0100
  Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-03-23 08:30 +0100

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