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On Wed, Dec 22, 2021 at 1:45 PM <rhkramer@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 09:19:31 AM Curt wrote:
> > On 2021-12-21, rhkramer@gmail.com <rhkramer@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > That is a known thing (a telephone intercept of a cell phone call), I
> > > have found nothing so far about such a thing happening with a VOIP
> phone
> > > or land line.
> >
> > It's a known thing to dial one number and reach another?
>
> On a cell phone yes, but I'd have to google again to find a link, I'll try
> to
> do that between now and tomorrow.
>
> > Can you provide
> > a link?
>
> See above.
>
> > What do you mean by intercept?
>
> Well it wasn't a word I originally used, but as I googled, I found
> reference
> to that.  It seems it can mean (refer) to at least two (slightly)
> different
> things;
>
>    * the thing that law enforcement (and others) can do (legally or not),
> that
> is put a wiretap on the "line" (virtual or real) and listen in / record
> the
> conversation
>
>    * the other implied / inferred meaning is that of what I described,
> that is
> calling one number and having it be intercepted by another party who might
> masquerade as the called party.  (Somebody on the list pointed out
> essentially
> the same thing as a "man in the middle" attack.)
>
> I did a little bit of googling ([telephone intercept cell phone]) before
> sending this to see if I could find a link, but no luck.  (It's possible I
> misunderstood something I saw, but I don't think so.)
>

I'd have to say the concept of "intercepting" a VoIP call for Google voice
reaches beyond logic; not impossible but certainly not probable since
Google voice uses TLS to my knowledge. For this to work, you're implying
someone is between you and google and the google voice service doesn't
know. Again, I'd say this is more likely to be a case of sim
cloning/spoofing based on WFH in that the calls are forwarded to cell
phones that have been compromised. This lines up well with the stated fact
that the calls randomly get "intercepted" and others go to the legit
company in question. To my knowledge, with sim cloning the phone rings
simultaneously. So the first one to pick up gets the call.

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Re: Identity Theft rhkramer@gmail.com - 2021-12-21 20:00 +0100
  Re: Identity Theft Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2021-12-22 15:20 +0100
    Re: Identity Theft rhkramer@gmail.com - 2021-12-22 19:50 +0100
      Re: Identity Theft Philippe LeCavalier <support@plecavalier.com> - 2021-12-22 20:00 +0100
        Re: Identity Theft John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2021-12-22 20:30 +0100
      Re: Identity Theft Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2021-12-22 20:10 +0100
        Re: Identity Theft rhkramer@gmail.com - 2021-12-22 20:20 +0100
        Re: Identity Theft rhkramer@gmail.com - 2021-12-23 14:10 +0100
          Re: Identity Theft Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2021-12-23 15:10 +0100
            Re: Identity Theft harryweaver@tutanota.com - 2021-12-23 21:40 +0100
              Re: Identity Theft Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2021-12-23 22:10 +0100
                Re: Identity Theft Jeremy Ardley <jeremy@ardley.org> - 2021-12-23 22:30 +0100
                Re: Identity Theft Philippe LeCavalier <support@plecavalier.com> - 2021-12-24 00:50 +0100
                Re: Identity Theft rhkramer@gmail.com - 2021-12-24 16:00 +0100
                Re: Identity Theft Philippe LeCavalier <support@plecavalier.com> - 2021-12-24 16:20 +0100
                Re: Identity Theft John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2021-12-24 16:30 +0100
                Re: Identity Theft Philippe LeCavalier <support@plecavalier.com> - 2021-12-24 16:40 +0100
    Re: Identity Theft harryweaver@tutanota.com - 2021-12-22 21:50 +0100

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