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Re: biqu bx 3d printer ??

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On Thu, 23 Dec 2021 at 00:50, Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> wrote:

Hi Tixy,

After reading your several musings in this thread regarding
USB verses serial interfaces for CNC machines (3D printer, etc),
I thought I'd respond, because I think they are missing the mark.

> I guess it's possible to use a USB to serial chip in the
> printer which then talks to a serial interface on the computer driving
> the printer. But that is very clunky ...

I have a budget 3 axis CNC router and that's exactly how it operates.
Apart from that, I'm not involved with the CNC world, but I get the
impression that this is standard practice at all scales, for historical
and practical reasons.

I'd suggest that this is because for CNC applications, USB is not
better than a UART serial interface, and probably worse. So CNC
machine designers would have begun with serial interfaces before
USB was invented, and then had no reason to change to USB.

Reasons that occur to me:

- USB has poorer noise immunity (don't forget that a CNC machine
contains several motors and is often used in industrial settings
which can be electrically noisy). And in CNC, anything going
wrong typically produces some kind of disaster of a catastrophic,
unsafe and expensive nature.

- USB has maximum cable length specification of only a few
metres (so wikipedia says).

- USB is optimised towards higher data rates.
In general a CNC machine receives one small file of G-code, and
then autonomously fabricates an item. It is irrelevant if the file
transfer takes seconds, when the mechanical job takes minutes.

- CNC machines aren't mass consumer items, so they
don't need to follow fashion.

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  Re: biqu bx 3d printer ?? didier gaumet <didier.gaumet@gmail.com> - 2021-12-22 10:20 +0100
    Re: biqu bx 3d printer ?? gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2021-12-22 10:40 +0100
      Re: biqu bx 3d printer ?? didier gaumet <didier.gaumet@gmail.com> - 2021-12-22 12:20 +0100
        Re: biqu bx 3d printer ?? gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2021-12-22 13:10 +0100
      Re: biqu bx 3d printer ?? Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2021-12-22 13:00 +0100
        Re: biqu bx 3d printer ?? didier gaumet <didier.gaumet@gmail.com> - 2021-12-22 14:20 +0100
          Re: biqu bx 3d printer ?? Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2021-12-22 15:00 +0100
            Re: biqu bx 3d printer ?? didier gaumet <didier.gaumet@gmail.com> - 2021-12-22 16:10 +0100
              Re: biqu bx 3d printer ?? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-12-22 19:10 +0100
              Re: biqu bx 3d printer ?? gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2021-12-22 23:10 +0100
            Re: biqu bx 3d printer ?? David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> - 2021-12-24 00:50 +0100
              Re: biqu bx 3d printer ?? gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2021-12-24 05:10 +0100
              Re: biqu bx 3d printer ?? Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2021-12-24 10:30 +0100
        Re: biqu bx 3d printer ?? Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2021-12-23 14:30 +0100
          Re: biqu bx 3d printer ?? Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2021-12-23 15:10 +0100
            Re: biqu bx 3d printer ?? Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2021-12-23 15:30 +0100
              Re: biqu bx 3d printer ?? Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2021-12-23 16:00 +0100
                Re: biqu bx 3d printer ?? Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2021-12-23 17:10 +0100
              Re: biqu bx 3d printer ?? gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2021-12-23 18:20 +0100
            Re: biqu bx 3d printer ?? gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2021-12-23 18:20 +0100
              Re: biqu bx 3d printer ?? gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2021-12-23 19:10 +0100
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