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Re: Impossible to give "write" permission on a sub folder

From David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Impossible to give "write" permission on a sub folder
Date 2021-11-26 22:00 +0100
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On 11/26/21 12:29 AM, lists.debian@netc.eu wrote:
> Hello to all,
> I have a dual boot PC with Windows 10 and Debian 11
> This PC has 2 drives, one SSD that has both operating systems and a HDD 
> where I store all other files (documents, music, images, ...)
> The goal is to share this HDD between Windows and Debian. To do it, I 
> added the following line to the fstab file:
> 
>     UUID=ACB23705B236D414 /mnt/windows    ntfs-3g defaults,umask=000  
>       0   0
> 
> the folders lount without any problem to /mnt/windows, all with the 
> correct permission settings (rwx) :
> 
>     $ ls -l /mnt/windows/
>     total 80
>     drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4096 14 nov. 20:20 '$RECYCLE.BIN'
>     drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4096 24 nov. 15:59 CloudStation
>     drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4096 21 nov. 11:44 Documents
>     -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8192 25 juin 08:15 DumpStack.log.tmp
>     drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4096 22 nov. 20:41 Images
>     drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4096 24 nov. 11:53 Music
>     drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8192 23 nov. 06:21 'System Volume Information'
>     drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 40960 21 nov. 22:22 Downloads
>     drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4096 21 nov. 19:44 Videos
> 
> My problem is that in some sub folders, I'm not getting the write ("w") 
> permission. For example on the "Documents" one:
> 
>     $ ls -l /mnt/windows/Documents/
>     total 117
>     drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16384 24 nov. 15:59 User1
>     -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 26 nov. 2020 Default.rdp
>     -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 432 11 mars 2021 desktop.ini
>     dr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 40960 24 nov. 15:59 User2
>     drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16384 24 nov. 16:00 Public
>     drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4096 24 nov. 15:59 User3
>     dr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 20480 21 nov. 12:05 Scan
>     -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18432 4 déc. 2016 Thumbs.db
>     drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 16 nov. 23:13 'Unified Remote'
> 
> Most of the folders are OK, but I ave User2 and San that doesn't have 
> the write ("w") permission...
> Do you have any idea on whats going on?
> Thanks in advance for all the help,
> Berst regards,
> Marc


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The Windows disk/ partition/ volume/ filesystem stack and the Linux 
stack are fundamentally different.  When using one filesystem with both 
operating systems, features and interoperability are opposites.  A 
simple filesystem, such as FAT, has minimum features and maximum 
interoperability.  A complex file system, such as NTFS, has maximum 
features and minimum interoperability.


If you want to know the reasons behind the interoperability effects that 
you are seeing with NTFS under Linux, then I suggest that you study 
Windows drive/ partition/ volume/ filesystem technical documents, the 
corresponding Linux technical documents, and the Linux ntfs-3g driver.


If you want a disk/ partition/ volume/ filesystem that "just works" with 
both Windows and Linux, then I suggest that you backup your data, zero 
the HDD, use Windows to partition the HDD, use Windows to format the 
partition using the exFAT filesystem, and restore your data.  This 
should give you a filesystem that all users and processes can access 
under both Windows and Linux.  If you want to limit access to all or 
part of the disk, then one solution is to create multiple partitions and 
filesystems, and mount each as required.


David

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Impossible to give "write" permission on a sub folder lists.debian@netc.eu <lists.debian@netc.eu> - 2021-11-26 09:40 +0100
  Re: Impossible to give "write" permission on a sub folder rhkramer@gmail.com - 2021-11-26 13:00 +0100
  Re: Impossible to give "write" permission on a sub folder Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-11-26 20:40 +0100
    Re: Impossible to give "write" permission on a sub folder Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-11-26 20:40 +0100
      Re: Impossible to give "write" permission on a sub folder Kenneth Parker <sea7kenp@gmail.com> - 2021-11-26 22:00 +0100
        Re: Impossible to give "write" permission on a sub folder Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2021-11-26 23:30 +0100
          Re: Impossible to give "write" permission on a sub folder David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> - 2021-11-27 04:10 +0100
    Re: Impossible to give "write" permission on a sub folder "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-11-27 12:20 +0100
  Re: Impossible to give "write" permission on a sub folder David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2021-11-26 22:00 +0100
  Re: Impossible to give "write" permission on a sub folder Chuck Zmudzinski <brchuckz@netscape.net> - 2021-11-27 19:50 +0100
    Re: Impossible to give "write" permission on a sub folder lists.debian@netc.eu <lists.debian@netc.eu> - 2021-11-28 17:50 +0100
      Re: Impossible to give "write" permission on a sub folder David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-11-28 22:20 +0100
        Re: Impossible to give "write" permission on a sub folder lists.debian@netc.eu <lists.debian@netc.eu> - 2021-11-29 23:30 +0100
          Re: Impossible to give "write" permission on a sub folder David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-11-30 05:50 +0100

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