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Re: [OT, deeply] Guix

From Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: [OT, deeply] Guix
Date 2021-11-08 22:50 +0100
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On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 9:55 AM Curt <curty@free.fr> wrote:

> On 2021-11-08, David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> wrote:
> >> >> In contrast, with NixOS/Guix that list is available in a plain text
> >> >> editable file.
> >
> > I'm not sure I'd call scheme a "plain text". Or do you mean something
> > other than the file that commences with:
> >
> >     (operating-system
> >       ;; ...
> >
> >> > in Debian there is /var/lib/apt/extended_states
> >>
>
> I thought plain text meant "a pure sequence of character codes" without
> any formatting information attached to it (e.g. HTML) or something. As
>

Here's the thing. We already have many ways to install debian and any other
kind of
linux-like OS in a completely declarative way. We don't need to learn a
programming
language to do it. Here are some of those ways:
Saltstack, Puppet, chef, ansible, AWS Cloudformation, XML....
And we're at the point where the upfront learning of those tools pays-off
later EVEN for single servers and desktops. Cause installation can be a
pain sometimes,
on slightly oddball platforms especially, your install tool config becomes
a backup
mechanism cause your desktop is too big to backup :-) etc. etc.

Why not embrace the monster? Ship debian to be autoconfigged, not
installed....
Just thinking out loud :-)

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[OT, deeply] Guix riveravaldez <riveravaldezmail@gmail.com> - 2021-10-26 01:50 +0200
  Re: [OT, deeply] Guix Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2021-10-26 12:10 +0200
  Re: [OT, deeply] Guix Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-10-26 15:30 +0200
    Re: [OT, deeply] Guix Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2021-11-07 08:30 +0100
    Re: [OT, deeply] Guix didier gaumet <didier.gaumet@gmail.com> - 2021-11-07 12:40 +0100
      Re: [OT, deeply] Guix Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-11-07 15:00 +0100
        Re: [OT, deeply] Guix David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-11-08 16:10 +0100
          Re: [OT, deeply] Guix Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2021-11-08 17:00 +0100
            Re: [OT, deeply] Guix Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2021-11-08 22:50 +0100
              Re: [OT, deeply] Guix Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-11-09 04:30 +0100
                Re: [OT, deeply] Guix Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2021-11-10 23:30 +0100
                Re: [OT, deeply] Guix Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-11-11 10:00 +0100
              Re: [OT, deeply] Guix Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2021-11-09 13:40 +0100
          Re: [OT, deeply] Guix Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-11-09 04:20 +0100
            Re: [OT, deeply] Guix David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-11-11 06:20 +0100
              Re: [OT, deeply] Guix Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-11-12 16:10 +0100

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