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Re: Wayland vs X

From Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Wayland vs X
Date 2022-03-09 18:20 +0100
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On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 4:40 AM Christian Britz <cbritz@t-online.de> wrote:

> Hi Kevin,
>
> On 2022-03-08 23:01 UTC+0100, Kevin Exton wrote:
> > I tried Wayland some years ago now (might have been when they first
> > trialled it in Ubuntu) but decided not to stick with it.
> >
> > Since more desktop environments are beginning to choose Wayland as the
> > default display protocol, I was wondering if others think there's
> > significant user benefits to making the change?
>
> I had it running for a while recently with KDE Plasma, because I wanted
> to try out waydroid, which only supports Wayland. My impression was,
> that it has improved a lot and is in a somewhat usable state, but I
> quickly changed back to X.
>

Here's something about the X ecosystem that I don't understand anymore.
I've read the statement
that "X isn't developed anymore, only XFree86". In other words, X source
was re-based to Xfree86
a long time ago. So it must be that in the XFree86-based X Windows, only
the X server is under active
development, nothing more than that. Is that accurate?


> I felt that programs designed for X and programs designed for Wayland
> don't interact well (copy/paste and so on) and Plasma support for
> Wayland is not as mature as for X.

........

> My biggest concern is that we will see over the next years a big
> division of the GUI application eco system. Some programs will stay
> optimised for X, some will even require Wayland, like the mentioned
> waydroid. Hopefully a full transparency can somehow be achieved.
>

And isn't that what happened once already? When XFree86 re-based X Windows?


> Regards,
> Christian
>
> --
> http://www.cb-fraggle.de
>
>

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Wayland vs X Kevin Exton <kcexton01@gmail.com> - 2022-03-08 23:20 +0100
  Re: Wayland vs X Georgi Naplatanov <gosho@oles.biz> - 2022-03-09 11:00 +0100
    Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-09 11:20 +0100
      Re: Wayland vs X didier gaumet <didier.gaumet@gmail.com> - 2022-03-09 15:00 +0100
        Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-09 16:30 +0100
          Re: Wayland vs X didier gaumet <didier.gaumet@gmail.com> - 2022-03-09 21:30 +0100
            Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-10 16:30 +0100
              Re: Wayland vs X didier gaumet <didier.gaumet@gmail.com> - 2022-03-10 18:30 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-10 19:10 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X didier gaumet <didier.gaumet@gmail.com> - 2022-03-10 21:30 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-11 00:10 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2022-03-11 13:10 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Christian Britz <cbritz@t-online.de> - 2022-03-11 14:20 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2022-03-11 15:10 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X didier gaumet <didier.gaumet@gmail.com> - 2022-03-11 17:40 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-11 21:10 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2022-03-11 23:10 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-12 01:10 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Marco Möller <talby@debianlists.mobilxpress.net> - 2022-03-11 19:30 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Tim Woodall <debianuser@woodall.me.uk> - 2022-03-11 20:30 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2022-03-11 22:10 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2022-03-11 23:20 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-03-12 07:40 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2022-03-14 16:30 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Marco Möller <talby@debianlists.mobilxpress.net> - 2022-03-14 17:50 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2022-03-14 18:30 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Marco Möller <talby@debianlists.mobilxpress.net> - 2022-03-14 20:30 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2022-03-14 21:10 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-11 21:20 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2022-03-11 23:10 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2022-03-11 21:50 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-11 22:10 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-11 22:30 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2022-03-11 22:40 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X 황병희 <soyeomul@doraji.xyz> - 2022-03-16 07:20 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2022-03-11 22:30 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X conover@panix.com (John Conover) - 2022-03-11 23:00 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2022-03-11 22:40 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-11 23:00 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2022-03-11 23:00 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-11 23:10 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-03-12 07:30 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2022-03-12 13:30 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-03-12 13:40 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2022-03-12 15:00 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-03-12 15:10 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2022-03-13 00:40 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2022-03-12 21:10 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-03-12 22:00 +0100
              Re: Wayland vs X didier gaumet <didier.gaumet@gmail.com> - 2022-03-10 18:30 +0100
    Re: Wayland vs X Pascal Obry <pascal@obry.net> - 2022-03-09 11:40 +0100
      Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-09 11:50 +0100
  Re: Wayland vs X Christian Britz <cbritz@t-online.de> - 2022-03-09 11:50 +0100
    Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-09 12:00 +0100
    Re: Wayland vs X Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2022-03-09 18:20 +0100
      Re: Wayland vs X <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-03-09 18:50 +0100
        Re: Wayland vs X Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2022-03-09 20:00 +0100
          Re: Wayland vs X <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-03-09 20:40 +0100
            Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-09 20:50 +0100
              Re: Wayland vs X <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-03-09 21:30 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2022-03-09 21:40 +0100
                Re: Wayland vs X <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-03-09 22:00 +0100
      Re: Wayland vs X Christian Britz <cbritz@t-online.de> - 2022-03-09 21:20 +0100
  Re: Wayland vs X 황병희 <soyeomul@doraji.xyz> - 2022-03-16 07:00 +0100
    Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-16 08:00 +0100
      Re: Wayland vs X Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2022-03-16 08:20 +0100
        Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-16 08:30 +0100
      Re: Wayland vs X "Byung-Hee HWANG" <soyeomul@doraji.xyz> - 2022-03-16 08:40 +0100
      Re: Wayland vs X Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2022-03-16 12:40 +0100
        Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-16 13:10 +0100
          Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-16 13:20 +0100
            Re: Wayland vs X Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> - 2022-03-16 13:40 +0100

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