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Re: Please take this as constructive

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> Every time that I search for solutions to my wifi drivers, the solution is
> to apt-get install a bunch of drivers. Why does nobody realize that apt'ing
> anything is a non-solution: How can I apt-get install <network drivers> if
> I don't have network drivers? There are DOZENS of responses to questions
> about network drivers that say to apt-get install various packages without
> any thought to the fact that nobody can apt without first having network
> drivers. It's seriously starting to **** me off. I've got computers with
> Broadcom wifi. How the heck am I going to fix that by using networking to
> download the gosh darn drivers to fix the networking that I don't have? Of
> the dozens of "solutions" that I've read about this, NOBODY ever thinks
> about how to fix the network driver without having a network driver.

Believe me, many people think about these things.
It's just not always easy to fix them.

Here's another way to attack those chicken/egg problems:

Use the installer on a machine OLD that does not suffer from those problems.
Make it so the install writes to a partition you created on a USB key.
On this system do the `apt install firmware-b43-cutter`.
Then clone that partition onto your TARGET machine's main disk.

There are several variations around this theme:

- You may be able to skip the first step if your machine OLD is already
  running Debian so you can directly clone from it (that's what I do most
  of the time, I almost never use Debian's installer).

- You may skip the last step if instead of using a USB key to move the
  data from OLD to TARGET, you take out TARGET's disk and connect it
  to OLD so you install directly onto TARGET's disk.

- Instead of Debian's installer, you can use `(c)debooststrap` or
  `multistrap`.


        Stefan

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Please take this as constructive "R. Toby  Richards" <tobias.richards@gmail.com> - 2022-01-18 07:50 +0100
  Re: Please take this as constructive john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com> - 2022-01-18 08:00 +0100
  Re: Please take this as constructive The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2022-01-18 12:10 +0100
  Re: Please take this as constructive "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2022-01-18 14:00 +0100
  Re: Please take this as constructive Loïc Grenié <loic.grenie@gmail.com> - 2022-01-18 14:40 +0100
    Re: Please take this as constructive Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2022-01-18 14:50 +0100
      Re: Please take this as constructive Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2022-01-18 18:00 +0100
        Re: Please take this as constructive Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2022-01-18 19:00 +0100
          Re: Please take this as constructive The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2022-01-19 04:10 +0100
            Re: Please take this as constructive Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2022-01-21 18:30 +0100
  Re: Please take this as constructive Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2022-01-18 15:00 +0100
    Re: Please take this as constructive Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2022-01-19 11:10 +0100
      Re: Please take this as constructive Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2022-01-21 18:50 +0100
  Re: Please take this as constructive Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2022-01-18 15:10 +0100

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