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Re: Error installing texlive-base

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On 10/15/21, Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jo, 14 oct 21, 13:19:09, Victor Hugo Muñoz wrote:
>>
>> Yes, I know the risks :-) My office computer is in stable for that
>> reason. This is my home computer. Anyway,
>> I'm extremely conservative with upgrades, and do not upgrade if I
>> think I'm going to break something important, This may
>> be the first major issue I've had for years in this particular machine.
>
> Postponing upgrades (of some packages) for a while (days or weeks, at
> most) is indeed a necessity from time to time in unstable.
>
> However, at some point you do have to deal with it somehow[1] and let
> the system reach current unstable, otherwise you'll encounter a
> situation that is not supported at all (like managing packages from
> current unstable with a 'dpkg' from pre-stable).
>
> [1] this may involve removing a specific package that is causing the log
> jam.


I used to postpone because I didn't understand how the system works.
My count at one time was over 1,000 packages on hold.

What it seems to be most often is that there will be a package version
number change. That logjam.. very often is that a User's choice of
e.g. apt, apt-get, or aptitude needs to bring a brand new package
onboard. Occasionally, it's even about bringing on more new packages
beyond that version change. It's all about progress and package
feature changes.

My a-sumption about it is that they're graciously allowing Users the
opportunity to consciously approve a new package coming into one's
system. That new package addition even more frequently then requires
one to manually delete the prior version of the newly added package.

What I experienced and FREAKED OUT about (here on Debian-User) a
couple years back was that a massive stable package deletion can occur
if one suddenly decides to simultaneously upgrade ALL of those 1,000+
packages one might have postponed. If you nibble at it instead, that
massive deletion usually does not occur. In fact, that logjam starts
opening up and throwing packages into a normal upgrade priority after
just the right postponed package is upgraded by adding in its newest
dependency.

Something like that... there.

N.B. Linux-image on hold is a slightly different beast. Part of that
is that its upgrade can render some systems unbootable until things
are manually updated within one's CHOICE of boot managers. For
example, I use LILO and have a separate directory that I maintain to
help it function. I have to manipulate the latest vmlinuz and
initrd.img files within that dedicated folder then everything
continues to boot successfully after that. Thank you, Developers!

Cindy :)
-- 
Cindy-Sue Causey
Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA
* runs with birdseed *

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Error installing texlive-base Victor Hugo Muñoz <victor_munoz@uchile.cl> - 2021-10-14 17:20 +0200
  Re: Error installing texlive-base The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-10-14 17:30 +0200
    Re: Error installing texlive-base Victor Hugo Muñoz <victor_munoz@uchile.cl> - 2021-10-14 18:40 +0200
      Re: Error installing texlive-base David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-10-14 19:10 +0200
      Re: Error installing texlive-base Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-10-15 10:10 +0200
        Re: Error installing texlive-base Cindy Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2021-10-15 21:30 +0200
  Re: Error installing texlive-base "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-10-14 17:30 +0200
    Re: Error installing texlive-base Victor Hugo Muñoz <victor_munoz@uchile.cl> - 2021-10-14 19:00 +0200
      Re: Error installing texlive-base harryweaver@tutanota.com - 2021-10-14 19:20 +0200
  Re: Error installing texlive-base David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-10-14 18:40 +0200
    Re: Error installing texlive-base Victor Hugo Muñoz <victor_munoz@uchile.cl> - 2021-10-14 19:10 +0200
      Re: Error installing texlive-base Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-10-14 19:50 +0200
        Re: Error installing texlive-base Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-10-15 10:00 +0200
          Re: Error installing texlive-base Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-10-15 13:40 +0200
            Re: Error installing texlive-base Victor Hugo Muñoz <victor_munoz@uchile.cl> - 2021-10-15 16:00 +0200
              Re: Error installing texlive-base Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-10-18 01:30 +0200
                Re: Error installing texlive-base Victor Hugo Muñoz <victor_munoz@uchile.cl> - 2021-10-18 15:20 +0200

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