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Re: You have been removed from

From "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: You have been removed from
Date 2021-10-08 22:10 +0200
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Hi,

Greg Wooledge wrote:
> This response message
> is sent with an envelope sender (MAIL FROM) address of
> postmaster@vps268904.ovh.net
> [...]
> How does an
> email address that only appears in the body get counted as if it were
> the sender?

I doubt that it is due to any address in the body. Rather i assume that
you are named in the MAIL FROM command of the bounce message.
See
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bounce_address
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bounce_message
The offender would send a bounce message to bendel.debian.org with your
address as forged sender of the bounced mail:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backscatter_%28email%29

What you see is the payload part of the bounce message, which is mainly
an ornament without technical function. It could be completely forged.
Only bendel.debian.org knows from where the bounce message came.


If this theory is true, then a solution would be to equip each list mail
with a unique resend id, which could be an encrypted combination of
subscribed mail address and resend time. Only if this mail header line
is included in the bounce message and matches the alleged senderi and
roughly the time, only then a bounce is credible.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

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