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Re: slower Debian 11 after upgrade from 10

From David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: slower Debian 11 after upgrade from 10
Date 2021-10-05 20:40 +0200
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On 10/5/21 06:21, L Dimov wrote:
>   
> 
>      On Tuesday, October 5, 2021, 1:59:21 AM EDT, David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> wrote:
> 
> If your laptop has hardware that requires proprietary firmware, I very
> much doubt that the firmware in question will ever be open-sourced.
> Without the proprietary firmware, the best case is reduced
> functionality using reverse-engineered drivers -- e.g. NVIDIA and
> Nouveau.  Wi-Fi adapters requiring proprietary firmware tend to be
> non-functional without such.
> 
> 
> Either keep your laptop and install the proprietary firmware, or sell it
> and get something with hardware that does not require proprietary firmware.
> 
> It is a work laptop, so I am definitely not selling it:) Plus, it is only 2-3 years old.
> What bugs me is that it worked fine with Debian 10. I even had bought a wifi card from thinkpenguin since the original wouldn't work with free software.


I am curious about your arrangement with your employer -- few allow 
employees to install an OS of their choosing on company hardware (and 
retain administrator access).


Does your employer have IT support?  Have you requested assistance?


Have you requested assistance from ThinkPenguin?


As other readers have pointed, out, Debian 11 may very well be slower 
than Debian 10 on the same hardware; even after firmware issues are 
resolved.


As for the firmware -- what about running an older Debian (or Windows 10 
Pro) on the hardware, installing a hypervisor, and running Debian 11 in 
a VM?  For a year or more, my Debian daily driver was a VirtualBox 
virtual machine on a mid-2015 MacBook Pro 15 Retina.  Debian thought it 
was running on a stock x86 personal computer with full hardware support 
OOTB.  Performance was surprisingly good, graphics were beautiful, 
networking and was easily controlled from the Virtual Box manager.  Only 
down-side was keyboard integration -- I seem to recall conflicts with 
certain key combinations.


David

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slower Debian 11 after upgrade from 10 L Dimov <lddimov@yahoo.com> - 2021-10-05 05:20 +0200
  Re: slower Debian 11 after upgrade from 10 Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-10-05 05:30 +0200
    Re: slower Debian 11 after upgrade from 10 L Dimov <lddimov@yahoo.com> - 2021-10-05 05:40 +0200
      Re: slower Debian 11 after upgrade from 10 David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2021-10-05 08:00 +0200
        Re: slower Debian 11 after upgrade from 10 David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2021-10-05 08:20 +0200
        Re: slower Debian 11 after upgrade from 10 L Dimov <lddimov@yahoo.com> - 2021-10-05 15:30 +0200
          Re: slower Debian 11 after upgrade from 10 David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2021-10-05 20:40 +0200
  Re: slower Debian 11 after upgrade from 10 "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-10-05 12:50 +0200
    Re: slower Debian 11 after upgrade from 10 Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2021-10-05 14:20 +0200
      Re: slower Debian 11 after upgrade from 10 Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-10-05 14:30 +0200
        Re: slower Debian 11 after upgrade from 10 Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-10-05 15:10 +0200
    Re: slower Debian 11 after upgrade from 10 L Dimov <lddimov@yahoo.com> - 2021-10-05 15:30 +0200
  Re: slower Debian 11 after upgrade from 10 George Shuklin <george.shuklin@gmail.com> - 2021-10-05 15:30 +0200
  Re: slower Debian 11 after upgrade from 10 piorunz <piorunz@gmx.com> - 2021-10-05 21:00 +0200
    Re: slower Debian 11 after upgrade from 10 L Dimov <lddimov@yahoo.com> - 2021-10-06 04:30 +0200

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