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Re: Slow graphics on Intel Xtreme?

From Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Slow graphics on Intel Xtreme?
Date 2021-10-02 02:20 +0200
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> Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> wrote:
> > You probably just need firmware.  Use "dmesg | grep -i firmware" to
> > verify this.

On Fri, Oct 01, 2021 at 11:32:57PM +0000, Nils wrote:
> Well, this command gets me no output at all!
> Maybe these Intel Xtreme graphics cards are simply too weak for Linux and Windows can handle them better?

On Fri, Oct 01, 2021 at 11:40:16PM +0000, Tuxifan wrote:
> Additional info, here is my "lspci -nn":
> > 00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE/PE DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface [8086:2560] (rev 03)
> > 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device [8086:2562] (rev 03)

This is an old chipset, which explains why it doesn't need any firmware.

I found a 10 year old forum thread where someone with this chipset had
problems, with no resolution:
<https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=71083>

Of course, that's 10 years ago.  Here's a 9 year old thread from someone
who got things to be "less bad" by installing some missing packages:
<https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/3d-acceleration-with-intel-corporation-82845g-gl%5Bbrookdale-g%5D-4175410707/>

You could check glxinfo (from mesa-utils) and see whether direct
rendering is working at all.  It might also be worth looking at your
Xorg.0.log file and see if it has any useful errors or warnings.

I'm not an expert on decades-old Intel video hardware, but everything I've
heard about it over the years says that it was notoriously bad.  Maybe
you can find some way to make it less bad, but it's definitely never going
to be *great*.

If you don't get the answers you're looking for here, you might need to
seek out people who know more about running Linux/X11 on museum-age
Intel devices.

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Slow graphics on Intel Xtreme? Nils <tuxifan@posteo.de> - 2021-09-29 05:50 +0200
  Re: Slow graphics on Intel Xtreme? "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-09-30 22:20 +0200
    Re: Slow graphics on Intel Xtreme? Nils <tuxifan@posteo.de> - 2021-09-30 23:30 +0200
      Re: Slow graphics on Intel Xtreme? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-09-30 23:50 +0200
        Re: Slow graphics on Intel Xtreme? Nils <tuxifan@posteo.de> - 2021-10-02 01:50 +0200
        Re: Slow graphics on Intel Xtreme? Tuxifan <tuxifan-dml@posteo.de> - 2021-10-02 01:50 +0200
          Re: Slow graphics on Intel Xtreme? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-10-02 02:20 +0200
            Re: Slow graphics on Intel Xtreme? Nils <tuxifan@posteo.de> - 2021-10-02 09:40 +0200
              Re: Slow graphics on Intel Xtreme? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-10-02 14:50 +0200
                Re: Slow graphics on Intel Xtreme? Nils <tuxifan@posteo.de> - 2021-10-03 02:20 +0200
    Re: Slow graphics on Intel Xtreme? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-10-01 17:20 +0200
  Re: Slow graphics on Intel Xtreme? Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2021-10-02 08:40 +0200
    Re: Slow graphics on Intel Xtreme? Nils <tuxifan@posteo.de> - 2021-10-02 09:20 +0200
      Re: Slow graphics on Intel Xtreme? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-10-03 20:10 +0200

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