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Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka!

From Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka!
Date 2016-04-28 19:27 -0700
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On 4/28/16, 6:47 PM, in article
cKOdneXP8tW3IL_KnZ2dnUU7-VHNnZ2d@giganews.com, "Marek Novotny"
<marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote:

> On 2016-04-29, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> 
> // snip
> 
>> Not at all trying to get you to change your mind. What I would like, from
>> those who think desktop Linux competes well, are examples of where it does
>> well on common desktop tasks.
> 
> You have the wrong mind-set.

I have a different focus about computing than you do. That does not make
either of us right or wrong. Really, it speaks well of the modern computing
world that we can have such different focuses - their is a HUGE world out
there dealing with the technology.

> I don't common desktop tasks to you.

Not sure what you mean here.

> I use Vim. Do you?

I used to use VI, back in the 1980s and '90s. I do not use it much now. For
my text editing needs I tend to use a program called Text Wrangler.

> Can you compare Word to Vim?

In general terms, sure... but you do so below. :)

> I don't have embedded graphics in Vim, it's a text editor and its where I
> write any program, script or document. So what are you going to compare to,
> textWrangler? I wouldn't care. Vim is long running history of updates and
> features that without 6 months of training you'd never really understand.

As I said, I used to use it... though I have not kept up with it at all.

> So you can run Vim. I run it on a Mac. There, we have Vim vs. Vim. It's a draw
> isn't not?

Roughly... there are some difference: on OS X you can use the standard copy
and paste hot keys in the command line (since it does not use command) and
there are some other benefits but overall I would say Linux wins with the
command line... more built in tools if nothing else.

If you are mostly using command line programs then, sure, Linux is the way
to go (and it is also a LOT cheaper).

> I use Mutt for email. It's a text based email app.

Yes, I know. I used to use pan. And tin for Usenet. But, again, not for
years.

With Usenet, that is an area I would say the OS X environment sorta sucks. I
have yet to find a half-way decent client.

> I also use Thunderbird. Are you going to tell me your email is so much better
> than mine? 

It certainly has some significant advantages I often use... just a few that
come to mind:

* I can drag and drop files to the Dock (launcher) icon and start an email
with that file attached.

* I can do the same thing from an open window - using the proxy icon. This
is very cool and streamlines work.

* I can Quick View files in Mail... this means getting a quick preview
without opening another program.

* I can do basic edits to emails. This might not seem like a big deal, but I
use this often (though, oddly enough, less this semester than most). It is
not uncommon to have students email me screenshots showing where they have
challenges - and I use the built in tools to circle things and add text and
arrows and the like. Sure, I could edit in an external editor but having it
built right in makes things far more streamlined (it is actually a plug in
program that I use that ties into Mail)

* It ties into the media browser so users can easily get to their images and
other media - not just by folder / directory location but by their image
albums and playlists and the like. Full disclosure: while I know many who
use this often I only use it rarely.

* I has hot keys and menu names / locations for printing and preferences and
more which I know will match pretty much every other program I use, helping
me be more efficient.

* Full screen system which ties into the system's full screen / workspace
manager. Again, though, for email I do not use this that often (though I do
sometimes)

* It ties into the system wide contact manager which makes emailing others
who are listed there and added elsewhere much easier. This I use often.

* It ties into my system wide spell checker so if I add a word in, say,
TextEdit I do not have to add it again.

I do not believe Thunderbird has any of those, though I would have to check
to be sure. 

With that said, it does NOT allow me to use left and right arrow keys to get
in and out of mailboxes. I have not used Thunderbird much recently, but I
believe it has that feature (or maybe I am thinking of another program). In
my mind any "three-panel viewer" program should... email, RSS, Usenet, etc.

> I suppose you could talk about your preview feature, which I could
> care less about.

You asked me if my email was better. I listed some features where it is. I
am not going to try to judge which ones would find important, esp. since you
are not used to them. It is not the same as your comments with VI/VIM, but
the idea is the same: to use these tools well, you need to learn how they
work and how they integrate. Yes, a newbie can use them, but an experience
used can use them much better. And by chaining things together and
understanding what to expect, the experienced user can become a lot more
efficient and less error prone.

> And again, Thunderbird isn't going to derail Linux. It's nothing that will
> sell your platform or push anyone on the fence for Linux to go with it. It's
> available on all platform and works the same way.
> 
> Firefox. Same thing.
> 
> Libre Office. We can both run it. So again, who cares.

LibreOffice is considered high end on Linux... but low end on OS X and
Windows. Yes, I have clients who use it (on my recommendation) but it is a
pretty basic suite. It does not do as many things as MS Office and does not
do things as smoothly as iWork. The fact it is free is a benefit but that is
about it. 

Even then, though, some time ago I compared LibreOffice on OS X and Linux...
it has a number of benefits on OS X (some might be outdated by now):

* A saved status indicator. At a glance know if your file is
  changed.

* Right-click on name in title bar to get full path to the file.
  This is an "active" list: click on any part of the path to get
  there.

* Proxy icon to allow for copies or aliases (links) from the open
  window, or to allow you to drag the file to email it or drag it
  to another program

* Access to your media browser to help select an image directly
  from whatever category you want: moments, collections, years,
  places, or albums.

* Terms and placement and hotkeys for quitting and preferences
  which are consistent with the system.

* Help system where you can type the name of any menu command and
  easily find it, even if in a submenu.

* Full screen system which ties into the system's full screen /
  workspace manager

* Recent items from the launcher... and it works even if the file
  has been renamed or moved (though it does not show the correct
  name in that case, it does still open the file)

* Print to PDF to any program you want... for example converting
  it to a PDF and sending it to a mail program or chat client or
  the like.

* You can close all the windows and not have to have the start
  screen as a place holder.

* It shows not just recent files but currently open files in the
  launcher.

* If you copy from it then close the program you can still paste
  elsewhere.

* In the system itself you can use QuickLook to view files (in the
  Finder, Mail, etc.).

> What's really different. The file systems, the hardware, the opportunity, the
> scale and so on. Which are things I have described.

Also the overall user interface and integration of the tools on the system.
Both are important. I would say Linux does better with some of the things
you list, and those matter for the techie. For the general user, though,
being able to just sit down and get things done is more important.

So you are not wrong: for you and other techies who do not use a computer
like most people but instead (largely) think in terms of what you do with
the command line and the server Linux is a great solution. But for the
general desktop - not so much.


-- 
* OS X / Linux: What is a file?     <http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI>
* Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu:     <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE>
* Mint KDE working with folders:    <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0>
* Mint KDE creating files:          <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8>
* Mint KDE help:                    <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8>
* Mint KDE general navigation:      <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI>
* Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs?     <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA>
* Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux:     <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk>
* OS / Word Processor Comparison:   <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>

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    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-27 21:41 +0000
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                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-28 18:00 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 18:26 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-28 18:47 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 19:27 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-04-29 03:32 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-29 09:21 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-04-29 10:59 -0700
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                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-02 07:24 -0700
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                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-02 07:50 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-02 17:43 +0200
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-02 18:56 +0200
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 10:41 -0700
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                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-05-02 07:36 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-02 16:41 +0200
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-02 10:03 -0500
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-02 08:13 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 10:40 -0700
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                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 13:09 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-02 21:58 -0400
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 20:33 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-02 23:58 -0400
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-05-03 09:00 -0300
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 13:48 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 20:05 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 21:18 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-05-03 06:42 +0200
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-05-03 06:59 +0200
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 22:27 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 22:23 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 08:17 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 09:32 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 10:13 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 11:52 -0700
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                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 08:28 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 08:45 -0700
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                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 17:48 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 13:43 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 14:31 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-04 07:01 -0500
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-03 09:29 -0400
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-03 06:53 -0500
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 16:20 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 09:56 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 17:49 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 11:56 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-03 21:05 +0200
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 12:48 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 19:51 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 13:34 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-05-04 08:38 -0300
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-04 13:53 +0200
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 13:35 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-03 21:53 +0200
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-03 22:07 +0200
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-03 22:49 +0200
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-05-04 08:45 -0300
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-04 09:03 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-05-04 17:08 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-04 11:07 -0700
                Re: Snit digest 218 / 2016-05-04 DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-04 14:10 -0400
                Re: Snit digest 218 / 2016-05-04 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-04 11:23 -0700
                Re: Snit digest 218 / 2016-05-04 tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2016-05-04 13:29 -0700
                Re: Snit digest 218 / 2016-05-04 owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-05-04 20:45 +0000
                Re: Snit digest 218 / 2016-05-04 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-04 14:26 -0700
                Re: Snit digest 218 / 2016-05-04 meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-05-04 22:14 +0000
                Re: Snit digest 218 / 2016-05-04 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-04 15:39 -0700
                Re: Snit digest 218 / 2016-05-04 meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-05-04 22:58 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-04 10:16 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 12:49 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 19:51 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-04 06:50 -0500
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-05-04 12:20 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-04 07:38 -0500
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-05-04 13:03 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-05-04 22:32 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 18:21 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 18:36 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 20:01 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-05-04 08:57 -0300
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 11:35 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-04 00:48 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kafka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 20:03 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kafka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-04 07:20 -0500
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kafka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-05 09:18 -0400
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-03 07:49 -0500
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-02 13:28 -0400
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 17:39 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 10:50 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-05-02 11:38 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-02 07:58 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 10:42 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-02 13:03 -0500
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-05-02 21:20 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 18:14 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 11:56 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 19:07 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 12:49 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 00:29 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 11:53 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 12:47 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-02 15:06 -0500
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 13:50 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 19:01 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-02 22:06 -0400
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 00:21 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-05-03 01:18 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-02 21:54 -0400
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 20:15 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-02 23:59 -0400
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 10:12 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-05-02 10:23 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 10:54 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-05-02 11:41 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 11:51 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-05-02 13:24 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 11:56 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 17:31 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-04-28 23:33 +0100
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 01:26 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 18:49 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-04-28 23:30 +0100
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 10:45 -0700
              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 10:46 -0700
            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-28 23:49 +0000
          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-04-28 11:01 +0100
            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-28 23:52 +0000
          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-28 06:37 -0500
            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-04-28 12:57 +0100
          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 07:14 -0700
        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-28 10:19 -0400
          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 09:18 -0700
            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-28 12:39 -0400
              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 16:57 -0700
          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-04-29 08:27 -0300
            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-29 12:24 -0400
              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-04-29 18:59 +0200
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-04-29 19:25 -0400
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-29 19:53 -0400
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-04-30 09:46 +0200
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 10:38 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-30 13:44 -0400
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-02 09:31 -0500
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-02 16:35 +0200
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-02 07:57 -0700
      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-04-28 08:19 -0300
        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 06:56 -0700
        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-28 10:26 -0400
          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-04-29 08:28 -0300
            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 13:39 +0000
              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-04-29 15:49 +0100
        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-04-28 17:08 +0100
          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 10:44 -0700
      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 07:08 -0700
    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-04-28 08:12 -0300
      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-28 06:50 -0500
        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-04-28 13:00 +0100
      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 06:49 -0700
    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 07:02 -0700
  Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-27 20:20 +0000
    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 23:51 +0000
      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 07:09 -0700
        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-04-29 08:35 -0300
          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-29 10:34 -0700
            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-04-30 07:34 -0300
      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-04-28 21:26 +0000
        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 15:08 -0700
          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-04-29 00:18 +0200
            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 15:28 -0700
        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 01:34 +0000
          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-29 01:42 +0000
            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-04-29 11:05 +0000
          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-28 18:50 -0700
            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 19:34 -0700
              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-28 19:42 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 20:20 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-28 20:58 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 21:42 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-29 09:16 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-29 10:22 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-29 11:53 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-29 12:50 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 00:30 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-04-30 10:49 -0300
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-30 08:02 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-04-30 15:20 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 10:12 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 23:44 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-01 16:18 -0400
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-02 07:26 -0500
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-02 07:25 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 10:05 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 10:25 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 11:43 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-02 20:52 +0200
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-05-02 21:41 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 19:11 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 12:57 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 12:51 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 00:26 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-05-03 01:22 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 18:58 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 19:00 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 20:23 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 21:23 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 22:32 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 22:34 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-03 09:30 -0400
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 06:40 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-03 15:47 +0200
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-03 11:11 -0500
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-05 09:28 -0400
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 09:14 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-03 12:27 -0400
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 16:29 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 09:15 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 16:32 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 05:33 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 09:07 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-05-03 12:42 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-03 14:49 +0200
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 06:29 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 09:09 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-05-03 16:13 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 09:52 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 10:18 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 17:41 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 11:44 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 18:58 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 12:45 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 19:47 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-05-03 21:51 +0200
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 14:22 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 12:43 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 14:21 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 11:42 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 12:28 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 12:40 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 13:30 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 17:39 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 10:08 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 10:21 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 10:50 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-04 10:38 -0400
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-04 07:45 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 11:49 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 13:00 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 13:28 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 14:24 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 15:00 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 14:26 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 08:52 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 09:48 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-03 09:30 -0400
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 04:50 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 22:11 -0700
          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 19:02 -0700
          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-29 06:58 -0500
            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-04-29 08:47 -0400
            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-29 09:30 -0700
              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-29 12:39 -0400
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-29 09:50 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-04-29 19:18 -0400
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-02 07:22 -0500
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-02 07:26 -0700
              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-29 10:59 -0700
              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-04-29 19:15 -0400
            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-29 10:56 -0700
          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-29 10:27 -0400
    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 07:04 -0700
      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-28 08:25 -0700
        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 08:40 -0700
          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-28 09:01 -0700
            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 09:27 -0700
  Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-04-27 21:25 +0000
    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-04-27 18:45 -0400
      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-04-27 23:51 +0100
        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-04-28 07:32 +0000
    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-04-28 09:37 +0100
      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 07:10 -0700
    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 07:05 -0700
      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-04-28 21:54 +0000
        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 15:09 -0700
          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-04-29 00:33 +0000
            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 16:41 -0700
  Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 06:59 -0700
    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-04-29 08:33 -0300
      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-04-29 13:46 +0200
        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-29 10:34 -0700
      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-29 07:14 -0500
      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-29 10:35 -0700
        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-04-30 07:35 -0300

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