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Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka!

From Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka!
Date 2016-04-28 09:27 -0700
Message-ID <D34787EA.713F8%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> (permalink)
References (1 earlier) <docl94F3ft2U5@mid.individual.net> <D347668C.71396%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <tuSdnX2JUI3Ctr_KnZ2dnUU7-KGdnZ2d@giganews.com> <D3477CF5.713DD%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <jPudnbQ3rdJtrr_KnZ2dnUU7-S_NnZ2d@giganews.com>

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On 4/28/16, 9:01 AM, in article
jPudnbQ3rdJtrr_KnZ2dnUU7-S_NnZ2d@giganews.com, "Marek Novotny"
<marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote:

> On 2016-04-28, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 4/28/16, 8:25 AM, in article
>> tuSdnX2JUI3Ctr_KnZ2dnUU7-KGdnZ2d@giganews.com, "Marek Novotny"
>> <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2016-04-28, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>> Your claim is simply a lie ... told because you cannot think of any tasks
>>>> to
>>>> actually show! Remember, I do not have this problem. You do.
>>> 
>>> Build me a Mac, with 4 GiB intel Ethernet ports for under $500 with at
>>> least 64 GiB SSD, and run pfSense on it. Remember, it needs to be an
>>> actual Mac with Blessed legally licensed  version of OSX from Apple. And
>>> it needs to run pfSense in a 24/7 environment.
>> 
>> Ah, if your point is that you can build a Linux system for FAR less than you
>> can a Mac your point is conceded immediately. Heck, even compared to Windows
>> machines Macs, while they might cost similarly to comparable systems, on
>> average sell for about 2.5x as much. There are no truly low end Macs (though
>> the minis are not exactly high end!)
>> 
>> So, sure, you can have desktop Linux on a wider array of hardware AND you
>> can customize it more and save yourself money.
>> 
>> Linux is the winner there. No argument.
>> 
>> Now as the software and 24.7 environment, that seems more like something one
>> would do for a server - but is this something you have running on your
>> desktop? If so I am open to that too.
> 
> Actually, I don't have to build this at all. Right on Amazon there is a
> company called Mo-Co-So, short for Mobile Computing Solutions. And they
> make such a box for $429. It has 5 GBe ports, Quad core Celeron, 4 GB of
> RAM 64 GiB SSD and runs pfSense consuming only 7.5 watts, so it is
> fanless..
> 
> The box I made cost less than $300 from parts I bought at NetGate. It
> uses an AMD low power CPU and also runs pfSense, but on a 30 GiB SSD.
> It's very small. Smaller than a basic LinkSys router and about as light
> weight. No fan. Has console port and all that you'd expect for an
> infrastructure like device. That's my firewall.
> 
> In the 90s I used to run a qaud ethernet card in a Sun IPX box and use a
> firewall application on top. It was much more expensive. Open Source has
> made building such things much less expensive and very robust. This box
> replaced my Cisco ASA5505 which cost me around $1,000 and had limited
> licenses to connect via VPN. The pfSense being open is unlimited. The
> Cisco had an annual contract cost for support and updates. No contract,
> no updates. pfSense again is open. The updates are open and cost me
> nothing. It's even easier to use and have even more features.
> 
> The average joe doesn't have to build such as I did. They can buy this
> from a company with support for under $500 as a product that they just
> plug in, turn on, configure, and let it run 24/7.

Ties into what I said in my "short" take on Linux / OSS:

    -----
    OK first, Linux: it is excellent. It is an amazing piece of work
    with contributors from all over the place - from individuals to
    small companies to multi-billion dollar conglomerates. It even
    includes code from Microsoft - code Microsoft added and has been
    accepted. But Linux is not, overall, Microsoft code, it is open
    source code. And it works amazingly well. It has earned its place
    in the server room, in embedded devices, and even in portable
    computing devices. It does not, however, do this alone - it really
    only has value when tied to other code, and mostly that code is
    open source (though not 100%).

    So this extends the conversation to open source in general. And
    the same that I said for Linux holds true here - it is, in
    general, amazing. Sure, some open source projects are better than
    others, but the amount of code that exists in open source format
    is amazing and the fact that it can be had for free and altered
    for free is excellent. It is, perhaps, one of the greatest
    examples of people from so many walks of life coming together to
    make tools which anyone can use. It is, in many ways, similar to
    the sharing done in science. Its value is hard to over estimate.
    The whole concept of open source software and the people and
    companies who contribute to it have done the world as a whole an
    amazing service.

    Linux and OSS have earned a place on servers and embedded devices
    and more. They have earned respect. OSS is something that anyone
    who considers themselves technologically knowledgeable should have
    knowledge of - it is simply something that cannot be ignored if
    you wish to call yourself technologically competent.
    -----

I thought in that post I specifically noted how desktop Linux is "world
changing" - but I do not see that phrase there now. Still, I have often used
that phrase to describe not just Linux but desktop Linux specifically.

Yes: I speak of the downsides. Yes: I am sincere with that AND also sincere
with my desire to see people show examples where I might be wrong. But I
also speak of the benefits and the places where it is an amazing
accomplishment.


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  Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-04-27 13:13 +0100
    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-27 21:41 +0000
      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-04-28 09:35 +0100
        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-28 08:46 +0000
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            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-04-28 11:09 +0100
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                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-29 10:36 -0700
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                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-29 10:41 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 14:00 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 08:21 -0700
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                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 12:48 -0700
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                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-29 13:29 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-29 16:57 -0400
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 14:31 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 13:49 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 14:05 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 00:25 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 15:17 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-04-29 09:36 +0100
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-29 13:44 -0400
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            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 15:57 +0000
              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-04-28 17:06 +0100
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-28 09:22 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 10:38 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-28 10:46 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 11:14 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 12:57 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 18:24 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 12:05 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-28 12:08 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 12:15 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-28 12:43 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-04-28 22:30 +0200
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 13:37 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 13:46 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 12:59 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-28 16:49 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 16:57 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-28 18:00 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 18:26 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-28 18:47 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 19:27 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-04-29 03:32 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-29 09:21 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-04-29 10:59 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-02 07:36 -0500
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-02 07:24 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-02 16:38 +0200
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-02 07:50 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-02 17:43 +0200
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-02 18:56 +0200
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 10:41 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-02 20:32 +0200
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-02 10:13 -0500
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-05-02 08:50 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-05-02 16:06 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-05-02 10:16 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-05-02 18:03 +0000
                Re: UnPaid software testers. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-05-02 16:46 -0700
                Re: UnPaid software testers. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-05-02 23:53 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 17:36 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-05-02 07:36 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-02 16:41 +0200
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-02 10:03 -0500
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-02 08:13 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 10:40 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-02 20:27 +0200
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-02 13:43 -0500
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-02 20:56 +0200
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 11:56 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 12:40 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-02 15:45 -0400
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 13:09 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-02 21:58 -0400
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 20:33 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-02 23:58 -0400
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-05-03 09:00 -0300
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 13:48 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 20:05 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 21:18 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-05-03 06:42 +0200
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-05-03 06:59 +0200
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 22:27 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 22:23 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 08:17 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 09:32 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 10:13 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 11:52 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 13:31 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 08:28 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 08:45 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 13:30 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 17:48 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 13:43 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 14:31 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-04 07:01 -0500
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-03 09:29 -0400
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                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 16:20 +0000
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                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 17:49 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 11:56 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-03 21:05 +0200
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 12:48 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 19:51 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 13:34 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-05-04 08:38 -0300
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-04 13:53 +0200
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 13:35 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-03 21:53 +0200
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-03 22:07 +0200
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-03 22:49 +0200
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-05-04 08:45 -0300
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-04 09:03 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-05-04 17:08 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-04 11:07 -0700
                Re: Snit digest 218 / 2016-05-04 DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-04 14:10 -0400
                Re: Snit digest 218 / 2016-05-04 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-04 11:23 -0700
                Re: Snit digest 218 / 2016-05-04 tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2016-05-04 13:29 -0700
                Re: Snit digest 218 / 2016-05-04 owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-05-04 20:45 +0000
                Re: Snit digest 218 / 2016-05-04 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-04 14:26 -0700
                Re: Snit digest 218 / 2016-05-04 meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-05-04 22:14 +0000
                Re: Snit digest 218 / 2016-05-04 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-04 15:39 -0700
                Re: Snit digest 218 / 2016-05-04 meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-05-04 22:58 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-04 10:16 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 12:49 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 19:51 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-04 06:50 -0500
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-05-04 12:20 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-04 07:38 -0500
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-05-04 13:03 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-05-04 22:32 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 18:21 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 18:36 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 20:01 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-05-04 08:57 -0300
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 11:35 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-04 00:48 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kafka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 20:03 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kafka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-04 07:20 -0500
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kafka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-05 09:18 -0400
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-03 07:49 -0500
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-02 13:28 -0400
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 17:39 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 10:50 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-05-02 11:38 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-02 07:58 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 10:42 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-02 13:03 -0500
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-05-02 21:20 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 18:14 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 11:56 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 19:07 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 12:49 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 00:29 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 11:53 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 12:47 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-02 15:06 -0500
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 13:50 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 19:01 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-02 22:06 -0400
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 00:21 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-05-03 01:18 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-02 21:54 -0400
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 20:15 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-02 23:59 -0400
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 10:12 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-05-02 10:23 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 10:54 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-05-02 11:41 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 11:51 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-05-02 13:24 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 11:56 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 17:31 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-04-28 23:33 +0100
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 01:26 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 18:49 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-04-28 23:30 +0100
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 10:45 -0700
              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 10:46 -0700
            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-28 23:49 +0000
          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-04-28 11:01 +0100
            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-28 23:52 +0000
          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-28 06:37 -0500
            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-04-28 12:57 +0100
          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 07:14 -0700
        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-28 10:19 -0400
          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 09:18 -0700
            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-28 12:39 -0400
              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 16:57 -0700
          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-04-29 08:27 -0300
            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-29 12:24 -0400
              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-04-29 18:59 +0200
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-04-29 19:25 -0400
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-29 19:53 -0400
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-04-30 09:46 +0200
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 10:38 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-30 13:44 -0400
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-02 09:31 -0500
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-02 16:35 +0200
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-02 07:57 -0700
      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-04-28 08:19 -0300
        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 06:56 -0700
        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-28 10:26 -0400
          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-04-29 08:28 -0300
            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 13:39 +0000
              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-04-29 15:49 +0100
        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-04-28 17:08 +0100
          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 10:44 -0700
      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 07:08 -0700
    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-04-28 08:12 -0300
      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-28 06:50 -0500
        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-04-28 13:00 +0100
      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 06:49 -0700
    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 07:02 -0700
  Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-27 20:20 +0000
    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 23:51 +0000
      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 07:09 -0700
        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-04-29 08:35 -0300
          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-29 10:34 -0700
            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-04-30 07:34 -0300
      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-04-28 21:26 +0000
        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 15:08 -0700
          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-04-29 00:18 +0200
            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 15:28 -0700
        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 01:34 +0000
          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-29 01:42 +0000
            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-04-29 11:05 +0000
          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-28 18:50 -0700
            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 19:34 -0700
              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-28 19:42 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 20:20 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-28 20:58 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 21:42 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-29 09:16 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-29 10:22 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-29 11:53 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-29 12:50 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 00:30 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-04-30 10:49 -0300
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-30 08:02 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-04-30 15:20 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 10:12 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 23:44 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-01 16:18 -0400
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-02 07:26 -0500
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-02 07:25 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 10:05 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 10:25 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 11:43 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-02 20:52 +0200
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-05-02 21:41 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 19:11 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 12:57 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 12:51 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 00:26 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-05-03 01:22 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 18:58 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 19:00 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 20:23 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 21:23 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 22:32 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 22:34 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-03 09:30 -0400
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 06:40 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-03 15:47 +0200
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-03 11:11 -0500
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-05 09:28 -0400
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 09:14 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-03 12:27 -0400
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 16:29 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 09:15 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 16:32 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 05:33 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 09:07 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-05-03 12:42 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-03 14:49 +0200
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 06:29 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 09:09 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-05-03 16:13 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 09:52 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 10:18 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 17:41 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 11:44 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 18:58 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 12:45 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 19:47 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-05-03 21:51 +0200
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 14:22 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 12:43 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 14:21 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 11:42 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 12:28 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 12:40 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 13:30 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 17:39 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 10:08 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 10:21 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 10:50 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-04 10:38 -0400
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-04 07:45 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 11:49 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 13:00 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 13:28 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 14:24 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 15:00 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 14:26 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 08:52 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 09:48 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-03 09:30 -0400
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 04:50 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 22:11 -0700
          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 19:02 -0700
          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-29 06:58 -0500
            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-04-29 08:47 -0400
            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-29 09:30 -0700
              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-29 12:39 -0400
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-29 09:50 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-04-29 19:18 -0400
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-02 07:22 -0500
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-02 07:26 -0700
              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-29 10:59 -0700
              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-04-29 19:15 -0400
            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-29 10:56 -0700
          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-29 10:27 -0400
    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 07:04 -0700
      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-28 08:25 -0700
        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 08:40 -0700
          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-28 09:01 -0700
            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 09:27 -0700
  Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-04-27 21:25 +0000
    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-04-27 18:45 -0400
      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-04-27 23:51 +0100
        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-04-28 07:32 +0000
    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-04-28 09:37 +0100
      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 07:10 -0700
    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 07:05 -0700
      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-04-28 21:54 +0000
        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 15:09 -0700
          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-04-29 00:33 +0000
            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 16:41 -0700
  Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 06:59 -0700
    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-04-29 08:33 -0300
      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-04-29 13:46 +0200
        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-29 10:34 -0700
      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-29 07:14 -0500
      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-29 10:35 -0700
        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-04-30 07:35 -0300

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