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Re: Dependency check: qml-module-org-kde-newstuff

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Hi Marco,

great job you did there! 

So, when I am looking at your results, it looks for me, that the package 
qml-module-org-kde-newstuff is only recommended. 

But if so, IMO this then is a bug. Just because some things in systemsettings 
of plasma do not work without this package installed, it should be set to 
"depends", to make sure it is beeing installed.

I hope, the package maintainers are reading this, too, so it may be fixed and 
will not be necessary to file a bug.

Best regards

Hans

 > 
> If I investigate my package installations with the following commands:
> 	apt list qml-module-org-kde-newstuff
> 	aptitude why qml-module-org-kde-newstuff
> 	apt rdepends qml-module-org-kde-newstuff
> 
> then I am shown:
> that it was drawn in as a dependency:
> qml-module-org-kde-newstuff/stable,now 5.78.0-4 amd64 [installed,automatic]
> 
> and that several packages could depend on it or could recommend it:
> 
> i   plasma-desktop      Depends    plasma-desktop-data (= 4:5.20.5-4)
> i A plasma-desktop-data Recommends qml-module-org-kde-newstuff
> 
> Reverse Depends:
> 	Depends: knewstuff-dialog (= 5.86.0-2)
> 	Depends: systemsettings
> 	Depends: plasma-systemmonitor (>= 5.78.0~)
> 	Recommends: plasma-desktop-data
> 	Depends: peruse
> 	Recommends: libkf5newstuffcore5 (= 5.86.0-2)
> 	Depends: knewstuff-dialog (= 5.78.0-4)
> 	Breaks: libkf5coreaddons5 (<< 5.42)
> 	Breaks: libkf5attica5 (<< 5.42)
> 	Depends: artikulate
> 	Depends: plasma-systemmonitor (>= 5.66.0~)
> 	Recommends: plasma-desktop-data
> 	Depends: peruse
> 	Recommends: libkf5newstuffcore5 (= 5.78.0-4)
> 	Breaks: libkf5attica5 (<< 5.42)
> 	Breaks: libkf5coreaddons5 (<< 5.42)
> 	Depends: artikulate
> 
> So, these are the candidates which could have let install it
> automatically. However, I almost never let install recommends and the
> list also shows packages which I actually have not installed at all. It
> pretty much looks like plasma-desktop-data drew it in, but I am quite
> sure that I installed plasma-desktop without recommends (apt install
> --no-install-recommends) and therefore would expect that also its
> dependency plasma-desktop-data should have been installed without
> recommends. But about this last point I am not sure how apt handles it.
> Unfortunately I also do not find in the apt command's "term" or
> "history" logs, or the dpkg logs which package finally did draw it in, I
> can only find the date when it was installed together with many (too
> many!) other packages at a certain date, probably the day when I
> upgraded from buster to bullseye.
> Therefore I cannot help you to localize the package which indeed was
> responsible to draw it in.
> 
> If someone could teach me how to narrow down from the candidates to the
> finally responsible package, or some other approach how to derive the
> searched for information, then I could continue to investigate my system
> for you. Otherwise I am stuck and wouldn't know how to help you more.
> 
> Best wishes,
> Marco

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Dependency check: qml-module-org-kde-newstuff Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2021-09-29 14:40 +0200
  Re: Dependency check: qml-module-org-kde-newstuff Marco Möller <talby@debianlists.mobilxpress.net> - 2021-09-29 21:20 +0200
    Re: Dependency check: qml-module-org-kde-newstuff Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2021-09-30 09:10 +0200
      Re: Dependency check: qml-module-org-kde-newstuff Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 09:30 +0200
        Re: Dependency check: qml-module-org-kde-newstuff Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2021-10-03 11:40 +0200
          Re: Dependency check: qml-module-org-kde-newstuff Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 14:30 +0200

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