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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.comp.freeware, alt.computer.security, alt.hacker, alt.privacy.anon-server, comp.os.linux.advocacy |
| Subject | Re: Juniper faces many questions after spying code planted in software |
| Date | 2015-12-29 19:03 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <D2A8896B.6817C%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> (permalink) |
| References | (13 earlier) <n5s60r$vkn$1@dont-email.me> <gd838bds0srqk3rfm8vqrgcof75imbjogl@4ax.com> <n5snp8$10h$1@dont-email.me> <n5sojg$1ba$1@dont-email.me> <degqnpFaivoU1@mid.individual.net> |
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On 12/29/15, 6:35 PM, in article degqnpFaivoU1@mid.individual.net, "vallor" <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote: > On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 20:45:59 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: > >> Snerdly wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: >> >>> On 12/28/2015 2:01 PM, chrisv wrote: >>>> Snerdly wrote: >>>> >>>>> But that is what Peter had written. >>>>> >>>>> "You are truly a snittish idiot. Having the source is useful for >>>>> every user, >>>>> even if he is a total non-programmer. It makes certain that the >>>>> programs are available and changeable." >>>>> >>>>> Now, don't you think that your vitriol should be directed to Peter? >>>> >>>> Nope. It's your stupid interpretation of Peter's "useful for every >>>> user" that deserves my vitriol. >>> >>> It isn't useful for every user. >>> Most users don't even bother to look at source code. >> >> True. They depend on *others* who do look at the source code. >> >> In fact, since there is probably no Linux user that looks at every line >> of code in his distro, it is highly probable that all Linux users >> depend, to varying extents, on *other* people looking at the source >> code. >> >> If I fix a bug, you benefit, even if you don't know C from D. > > Which is obvious to everybody but those with room temperature IQ's. > > (I think snerd just being intentionally obtuse, I don't think he's as > stupid as he lets on.) > > [Sidenote: note change in news provider -- astraweb has a brain-dead > crossposting policy. ] Bug fixes which get put back into a project help the whole community. Sure. But the reality is with many open source project they NEVER catch up to the competition. To pretend they are used for their quality is thus silly. Does not mean they are not great - there is more than just quality. There is price, availability, and - for some - the license itself is a philosophical reason to use it. Look at LibreOffice. It is a pretty weak copy of MS Office, but it is adequate for many purposes. Adequate. Does not sound great perhaps but it is free... as in no cost. That in itself is an amazing "selling" point and should not be underestimated. And for those who have only moderate needs it may even work as well as MS Office. Apple goes after the same market segment - those who are looking for an office product that does not do all of what MS Office does. But they do not seek to copy MS Office - instead they made their own paradigm (though based on a long history of office suites, going back to the old AppleWorks on the Apple IIe and others from pre-MS Office). What iWork does it tends to do very well... often even better than MS Office, but it does not do it in the same way and it is not as full featured as MS Office. -- * OS X / Linux: What is a file? <http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI> * Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu: <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE> * Mint KDE working with folders: <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0> * Mint KDE creating files: <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8> * Mint KDE help: <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8> * Mint KDE general navigation: <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI> * Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs? <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA> * Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux: <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk> * OS / Word Processor Comparison: <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>
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Re: Juniper faces many questions after spying code planted in software Snerdly <noneofyourbusiness@anyway.net> - 2015-12-28 13:30 -0700
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Re: Juniper faces many questions after spying code planted in software Snerdly <noneofyourbusiness@anyway.net> - 2015-12-28 13:34 -0700
Re: Juniper faces many questions after spying code planted in software chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-12-28 15:03 -0600
Re: Juniper faces many questions after spying code planted in software Snerdly <noneofyourbusiness@anyway.com> - 2015-12-28 18:35 -0700
Re: Juniper faces many questions after spying code planted in software chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-12-29 06:21 -0600
Re: Juniper faces many questions after spying code planted in software Snerdly <noneofyourbusiness@anyway.com> - 2015-12-29 13:54 -0700
Re: Juniper faces many questions after spying code planted in software Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-12-29 18:07 -0500
Re: Juniper faces many questions after spying code planted in software chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-12-30 06:05 -0600
Re: Juniper faces many questions after spying code planted in software Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-12-30 13:13 +0100
Re: Juniper faces many questions after spying code planted in software Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-12-30 09:32 -0700
Re: Juniper faces many questions after spying code planted in software Snerdly <noneofyourbusiness@anyway.com> - 2015-12-30 13:36 -0700
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Re: Juniper faces many questions after spying code planted in software Snerdly <noneofyourbusiness@anyway.com> - 2015-12-28 18:38 -0700
Re: Juniper faces many questions after spying code planted in software Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-12-28 19:00 -0700
Re: Juniper faces many questions after spying code planted in software chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-12-29 06:24 -0600
Re: Juniper faces many questions after spying code planted in software Snerdly <noneofyourbusiness@anyway.com> - 2015-12-29 13:55 -0700
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