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Re: I like <PRE>; I can't please everyone, nor do I want to.

From Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy, sci.physics
Subject Re: I like <PRE>; I can't please everyone, nor do I want to.
Date 2015-11-21 16:49 -0700
Message-ID <D2765122.64EAD%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> (permalink)
References (2 earlier) <Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.21{1.14P.Seattle.2015}> <038d7ff3-5adc-4135-81b5-00b82c082100@googlegroups.com> <Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.21{3.01P.Seattle.2015}> <D2764C7E.64E9C%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.21{3.39P.Seattle.2015}>

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On 11/21/15, 4:39 PM, in article Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.21{3.39P.Seattle.2015},
"Jeff-Relf.Me" <@.> wrote:

>  
> You (Snit) replied to me:
>>> "OCR A" is a highTech, nextGeneration font, apparently.
>> 
>> Bigger issue is using PRE which prevents wrap.
> 
> I like <PRE>; I can't please everyone, nor do I want to.

It is not about pleasing people, it is about making your content be more
accessible. The fact it does not wrap makes it less accessible.

>>> "Jeff-Relf.Me" used to have a "monospace" font on Androids.
>>> 
>>> Since I started using the "OCR A" font, that changed, apparently,
>>> and I didn't think to reCheck it because anything in a <PRE> tag
>>> _should_ be using a "monospace" font -- this is an Android bug.
>> 
>> If it is not monospace on Android that IS a bug.
> 
> Yes, it is.  Androids are crappy/buggy.
> "OCR A" is a _basic_ font, I think.

Certainly not uncommon and I see you have a fall-back of monospace. That
should certainly work even if they do not have the font. Or did you lack the
fall-back?

>> And if you did not know, [it shows that]
>> you did not, as you claim, check it on all devices.
> 
> I did, just not often enough.  I'm not perfect.

Hence the reason understanding the code and playing some attention to
validation is important - which does not mean all invalid notes are
problems.

>>> Now, on crappy/buggy Androids,
>>> "Jeff-Relf.Me" has a "monospace" font, if not "OCR A"; see:
>>>   
>>> https://developers.google.com/speed/pagespeed/insights/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fjef
>>> f-relf.me%2F
> 
> I fixed it, as best I could.

Still does not wrap so hard to read on a device with a small screen.



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Re: There's nothing special about the start of "the big bang". John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 06:52 -0800
  Re: "View Source" my website, "Jeff-Relf.Me". John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 07:15 -0800
  Re: "View Source" my website, "Jeff-Relf.Me". Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 08:01 -0800
    Re: I don't care what any "HTML validator" might say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-21 13:56 -0700
      Re: I don't care what any "HTML validator" might say. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 13:01 -0800
      Re: Testing all you need, not "RoboValidation". Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-21 14:40 -0700
        Re: I understand HTML "20 times better" than you _ever_ could. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-21 15:12 -0700
          Snit's in his apologetic mode: He is setting up a new circus Edward Stansfield <stansfield5REM6@linuxmail.org> - 2015-11-21 17:19 -0500
        Re: I understand HTML "20 times better" than you _ever_ could. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 14:47 -0800
    Re: I don't care what any "HTML validator" might say. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 12:57 -0800
      Re: I tested it. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-21 14:38 -0700
      Re: I tested it. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 14:10 -0800
        Re: "OCR A" is a highTech, nextGeneration font. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-21 16:29 -0700
          Re: I like <PRE>; I can't please everyone, nor do I want to. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-21 16:49 -0700
            Re: <PRE> works _nicely_ on small screens. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-21 17:33 -0700
              Re: <PRE> works _nicely_ on small screens. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-21 17:59 -0700
                Re: <HTML> and <Body> do _not_ need closing tags. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-21 20:33 -0700
                Snit uses IE v2 John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-11-22 05:56 -0800
                Re: Snit uses IE v2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-22 09:18 -0700
                Re: @Snit vs John_Gohde. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-22 16:50 -0700
                Re: <HTML> and <Body> do _not_ need closing tags. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 21:08 -0800
            Re: <PRE> works _nicely_ on small screens. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 21:49 -0800
        Re: "OCR A" is a highTech, nextGeneration font. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-11-22 04:01 +0000
          Re: "OCR A" is a highTech, nextGeneration font. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-21 21:10 -0700

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