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Re: upgrading and stuff

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On Saturday 25 September 2021 06:08:23 pm Andy Smith wrote:
> The release of the three newer stable versions of Debian seems to have happened without you noticing. 

Life has handed me a whole mess of things to deal with over the past year or two...

> If you remain subscribed to this mailing list then you will surely read here about the release of
> Debian 12 (bookworm), but if you want a very low traffic announcements feed then you could subscribe to the debian-announce
> list instead:
> 
>     https://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/
> 
> It's only received 6 emails so far this year:
> 
>     https://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/2021/threads.html

I *do* have that list flowing in here,  along with Debian News and Debian Security.  I guess I need to give it some more attention?
 
> > consulted the release notes about how one might go about upgrading,  and from the latest on back each one says something to
> > the effect of only being able to upgrade from the last major version,  so if there's a good way to do this whole thing at once
> > I'd sure like to hear about it.
> 
> Yes, upgrades are only supported from one release to another, so if you wish to upgrade this machine you're going to have to consult the
> release notes for Debian 9 about upgrading from 8.x to 9.x, and then the release notes for Debian 10, and so on until you are at Debian
> 11.x.

I have multiple tabs open in my browser to just those things.
 
> It's not supported to go directly from 8 to 11 (or even from 8 to 10) and trying to do so will probably end in failure.
> 
> Or you could just reinstall and then put your data files back in
> place from your backups. That may be quicker.

Maybe,  but I'm not sure that I want to go there at the moment.
 
> > The only thing that works there is to log in as a regular user, and then use the su command to get there.  A bit of a pain.  Where
> > in the software is this controlled?  I really would like to change this behavior,  if at all possible.
> 
> I am not aware of any modern desktop environment that allows to log in and run the entire GUI as root, for reasons you said you didn't
> want to hear about. Someone else may be able to suggest some alternate desktop environment that allows this.
 
Well,  I guess we'll see what turns up in the messages then.


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upgrading and stuff "Roy J. Tellason, Sr." <roy@rtellason.com> - 2021-09-25 23:40 +0200
  Re: upgrading and stuff Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2021-09-26 00:10 +0200
    Re: upgrading and stuff Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-09-26 11:30 +0200
    Re: upgrading and stuff "Roy J. Tellason, Sr." <roy@rtellason.com> - 2021-09-26 18:50 +0200
      Re: upgrading and stuff "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-09-26 19:30 +0200
  Re: upgrading and stuff songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-09-26 00:30 +0200
    Re: upgrading and stuff Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2021-09-26 01:20 +0200
      Re: upgrading and stuff Tim Woodall <debianuser@woodall.me.uk> - 2021-09-26 09:10 +0200
  Re: upgrading and stuff Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-09-26 00:40 +0200
    Re: upgrading and stuff "Roy J. Tellason, Sr." <roy@rtellason.com> - 2021-09-26 19:10 +0200
      Re: upgrading and stuff Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-09-26 19:50 +0200
      Re: upgrading and stuff "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-09-26 20:00 +0200
        Re: upgrading and stuff "Roy J. Tellason, Sr." <roy@rtellason.com> - 2021-09-27 16:30 +0200

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