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Re: Challenges packaging Python for a Linux distro - at Python Language Summit

From Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <lkcl@lkcl.net>
Newsgroups linux.debian.maint.python
Subject Re: Challenges packaging Python for a Linux distro - at Python Language Summit
Date 2021-05-16 14:30 +0200
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On Sun, May 16, 2021 at 12:52 PM Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
<lkcl@lkcl.net> wrote:

> to fix this, there needs to be a stable overlap where multiple compiled versions
> are installed and maintained. to fix the problem, the rule needs to be set:
>
> * any given version of python *MUST* cross over from one debian/stable
>   to another debian/stable.
> * only when a given version of python has been in TWO versions of
>   debian/stable may it be considered for retirement / removal

sorry, correction / clarification:

any given version of python *and all python packages* must cross over
from and be permanently and irrevocably available across two versions
of debian/stable.

this will sove in one fell swoop all of the issues that have been reported
multiple times by multiple people for many years, creating a long-term
reliable and stable distribution.

you will be able to *SAFELY* do what you just did - back out of
python 3.8 and deploy 3.9 - *WITHOUT* completely destroying
people's systems because 3.7 was force-removed and they were
given absolutely no choice in the matter.

btw please, please, i am anticipating responses of the type
"it's your problem, you shouldn't be using debian/testing, if
you do you get everything you deserve".  if that thought crossed
your mind, please reconsider, and ask instead "why is this
person using debian/testing for 20 years".

l.

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Re: Challenges packaging Python for a Linux distro - at Python  Language Summit Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <lkcl@lkcl.net> - 2021-05-16 14:20 +0200
  Re: Challenges packaging Python for a Linux distro - at Python  Language Summit Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <lkcl@lkcl.net> - 2021-05-16 14:30 +0200
  Re: Challenges packaging Python for a Linux distro - at Python  Language Summit Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2021-05-16 23:00 +0200
    Re: Challenges packaging Python for a Linux distro - at Python  Language Summit Brian May <bam@debian.org> - 2021-05-17 00:30 +0200
  Re: Challenges packaging Python for a Linux distro - at Python  Language Summit Matthias Klose <doko@debian.org> - 2021-05-17 12:10 +0200

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