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Re: foolish problem with installer: can't load firmware

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Hi,

lou wrote:
> fedora includes firmware, and i think they are serious about open source

Open Source is not necessarily Free Software.


> why debian can't do the same?

There is a checklist for what is officially acceptable
  https://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines

Fedora makes a special exemption for "binary firmware" in
  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Forbidden_items?rd=ForbiddenItems


Stanislav Vlasov wrote:
> > https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmw
are/

lou wrote:
> it's unofficial, and it makes me feel uneasy

Being unofficial does not make it less safe than any other distro's official
ISO with non-free software. It's just that Debian makes a clearer distinction
between the goal to distribute purely free software and the reality that some
hardware does not work without non-free blobs which the computer has to load.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

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foolish problem with installer: can't load firmware <loushanguan2015@sina.com> - 2021-09-20 08:30 +0200
  Re: foolish problem with installer: can't load firmware David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2021-09-20 09:30 +0200
    Re: foolish problem with installer: can't load firmware lou <loushanguan2015@sina.com> - 2021-09-20 11:10 +0200
      Re: foolish problem with installer: can't load firmware Stanislav Vlasov <stanislav.v.v@gmail.com> - 2021-09-20 11:50 +0200
        Re: foolish problem with installer: can't load firmware lou <loushanguan2015@sina.com> - 2021-09-20 13:00 +0200
          Re: foolish problem with installer: can't load firmware Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-09-20 13:20 +0200
          Re: foolish problem with installer: can't load firmware "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2021-09-20 13:30 +0200
          Re: foolish problem with installer: can't load firmware piorunz <piorunz@gmx.com> - 2021-09-20 21:30 +0200
            Re: foolish problem with installer: can't load firmware Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2021-09-21 17:10 +0200
              Re: foolish problem with installer: can't load firmware piorunz <piorunz@gmx.com> - 2021-09-21 17:50 +0200
              Re: foolish problem with installer: can't load firmware Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-09-21 21:00 +0200
              Re: foolish problem with installer: can't load firmware Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2021-09-21 21:30 +0200
                Re: foolish problem with installer: can't load firmware piorunz <piorunz@gmx.com> - 2021-09-21 21:50 +0200
                Re: foolish problem with installer: can't load firmware lou <loushanguan2015@sina.com> - 2021-09-22 02:20 +0200
                Re: foolish problem with installer: can't load firmware Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-09-22 07:10 +0200
                Re: foolish problem with installer: can't load firmware <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-09-22 08:40 +0200
                Re: foolish problem with installer: can't load firmware lou <loushanguan2015@sina.com> - 2021-09-24 10:30 +0200
                Re: foolish problem with installer: can't load firmware <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-09-24 14:10 +0200
                Re: foolish problem with installer: can't load firmware Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2021-09-24 15:50 +0200
                Re: foolish problem with installer: can't load firmware <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-09-24 16:10 +0200
                Re: foolish problem with installer: can't load firmware Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2021-09-22 07:40 +0200
          Re: foolish problem with installer: can't load firmware "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-09-20 22:30 +0200
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      Re: Message display settings by character encoding (was Re: foolish  problem with installer: can't load firmware) Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-09-20 13:40 +0200
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