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Re: Require packages to build without any configured DNS

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Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 9/10/21 10:53 AM, Josh Triplett wrote:
> > Thomas Goirand wrote:
> >> On 9/8/21 6:01 PM, Josh Triplett wrote:
> >>> Now, that said, if the build process actually wants a DNS server to
> >>> run tests against, it should provide or depend on such a DNS server,
> >>> and configure it for such tests.
> >>
> >> Just to be 100% sure we're on the same page: that's *not* what dnspython
> >> is doing. It's a client library that's testing parsing of the
> >> /etc/resolv.conf format, and it just expects it to be there for parsing.
> > 
> > I understood that; I'd just wanted to make it clear that while programs
> > parsing /etc/resolv.conf should assume a nameserver on localhost if
> > /etc/resolv.conf doesn't exist
> 
> I don't understand why that should be the case. If there's a local
> nameserver, then it should be configured in resolv.conf as "nameserver
> 127.0.0.1" no?

Three reasons:

- It's the documented behavior when /etc/resolv.conf doesn't exist. `man
  resolv.conf` says "If this file does not exist, only the name server
  on the local machine will be queried, and the search list contains the
  local domain name determined from the hostname.".
- It's the established historical behavior of glibc, musl, adns, and
  various other resolvers, so breaking it would also be a backwards
  compatibility break.
- This behavior allows providing DNS for a chroot or similar without
  hacks like mounting a file over /etc/resolv.conf.

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Require packages to build without any configured DNS Mattia Rizzolo <mattia@debian.org> - 2021-09-06 16:50 +0200
  Re: Require packages to build without any configured DNS Don Armstrong <don@debian.org> - 2021-09-08 01:50 +0200
    Re: Require packages to build without any configured DNS Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2021-09-08 15:00 +0200
  Re: Require packages to build without any configured DNS Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2021-09-08 16:20 +0200
    Re: Require packages to build without any configured DNS Pirate Praveen <praveen@onenetbeyond.org> - 2021-09-08 16:30 +0200
      Re: Require packages to build without any configured DNS Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2021-09-08 17:30 +0200
        Re: Require packages to build without any configured DNS Pirate Praveen <praveen@onenetbeyond.org> - 2021-09-09 00:00 +0200
          Re: Require packages to build without any configured DNS Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2021-09-09 06:50 +0200
  Re: Require packages to build without any configured DNS Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2021-09-08 18:00 +0200
    Re: Require packages to build without any configured DNS Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2021-09-08 19:10 +0200
    Re: Require packages to build without any configured DNS Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2021-09-08 22:30 +0200
      Re: Require packages to build without any configured DNS Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2021-09-09 06:50 +0200
        Re: Require packages to build without any configured DNS Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2021-09-09 09:40 +0200
          Re: Require packages to build without any configured DNS Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2021-09-12 21:10 +0200
      Re: Require packages to build without any configured DNS Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org> - 2021-09-10 11:00 +0200
        Re: Require packages to build without any configured DNS Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2021-09-12 21:10 +0200
          Re: Require packages to build without any configured DNS Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org> - 2021-09-13 06:20 +0200
  Re: Require packages to build without any configured DNS Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org> - 2021-09-08 18:10 +0200
    Re: Require packages to build without any configured DNS Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2021-09-10 22:40 +0200
      Re: Require packages to build without any configured DNS Don Armstrong <don@debian.org> - 2021-09-14 09:00 +0200
        Re: Require packages to build without any configured DNS Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2021-09-14 14:50 +0200
  Re: Require packages to build without any configured DNS Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues <josch@debian.org> - 2021-09-14 10:20 +0200
    Re: Require packages to build without any configured DNS Mattia Rizzolo <mattia@debian.org> - 2021-09-14 15:40 +0200
      Re: Require packages to build without any configured DNS Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues <josch@debian.org> - 2021-09-14 19:20 +0200
        Re: Require packages to build without any configured DNS Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2021-09-14 19:50 +0200

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