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Re: Require packages to build without any configured DNS

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On Wed, Sep 08, 2021 at 09:01:31AM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote:
>...
> I think dnspython's previous approach was correct: just like glibc, musl, and
> other libraries, if /etc/resolv.conf is missing they should treat that as
> though it specified a nameserver on localhost.

How libraries implement a standard high-level C interface is not 
necessarily relevant for how a DNS library implements a low-level 
interface.

> The change to make that a
> configuration error, instead, breaks real configurations that intentionally
> don't have /etc/resolv.conf.
> 
> Among other things, having a DNS server on localhost (or forwarding the DNS
> port on localhost to your real DNS server) means that a chroot without
> /etc/resolv.conf still has functional DNS.

It is debatable whether this is a feature or a bug.

Having to configure a nameserver when you want DNS is less surprising 
than software automatically using nameservers like 127.0.0.1 or 8.8.8.8
when none is configured.

> Now, that said, if the build process actually wants a DNS server to run tests
> against, it should provide or depend on such a DNS server, and configure it for
> such tests.
>...

Depending on and configuring a normal DNS server might not happen in 
practice, since the build process running as a normal user would have
to configure and manually start it running on a non-privileged port.

Trying to resolve DNS addresses on the internet during the build is
not permitted.

> - Josh Triplett

cu
Adrian

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Require packages to build without any configured DNS Mattia Rizzolo <mattia@debian.org> - 2021-09-06 16:50 +0200
  Re: Require packages to build without any configured DNS Don Armstrong <don@debian.org> - 2021-09-08 01:50 +0200
    Re: Require packages to build without any configured DNS Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2021-09-08 15:00 +0200
  Re: Require packages to build without any configured DNS Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2021-09-08 16:20 +0200
    Re: Require packages to build without any configured DNS Pirate Praveen <praveen@onenetbeyond.org> - 2021-09-08 16:30 +0200
      Re: Require packages to build without any configured DNS Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2021-09-08 17:30 +0200
        Re: Require packages to build without any configured DNS Pirate Praveen <praveen@onenetbeyond.org> - 2021-09-09 00:00 +0200
          Re: Require packages to build without any configured DNS Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2021-09-09 06:50 +0200
  Re: Require packages to build without any configured DNS Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2021-09-08 18:00 +0200
    Re: Require packages to build without any configured DNS Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2021-09-08 19:10 +0200
    Re: Require packages to build without any configured DNS Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2021-09-08 22:30 +0200
      Re: Require packages to build without any configured DNS Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2021-09-09 06:50 +0200
        Re: Require packages to build without any configured DNS Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2021-09-09 09:40 +0200
          Re: Require packages to build without any configured DNS Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2021-09-12 21:10 +0200
      Re: Require packages to build without any configured DNS Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org> - 2021-09-10 11:00 +0200
        Re: Require packages to build without any configured DNS Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2021-09-12 21:10 +0200
          Re: Require packages to build without any configured DNS Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org> - 2021-09-13 06:20 +0200
  Re: Require packages to build without any configured DNS Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org> - 2021-09-08 18:10 +0200
    Re: Require packages to build without any configured DNS Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2021-09-10 22:40 +0200
      Re: Require packages to build without any configured DNS Don Armstrong <don@debian.org> - 2021-09-14 09:00 +0200
        Re: Require packages to build without any configured DNS Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2021-09-14 14:50 +0200
  Re: Require packages to build without any configured DNS Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues <josch@debian.org> - 2021-09-14 10:20 +0200
    Re: Require packages to build without any configured DNS Mattia Rizzolo <mattia@debian.org> - 2021-09-14 15:40 +0200
      Re: Require packages to build without any configured DNS Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues <josch@debian.org> - 2021-09-14 19:20 +0200
        Re: Require packages to build without any configured DNS Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2021-09-14 19:50 +0200

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