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Re: how to forbid debhelper to modify /home ?

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On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 08:33:25AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 08:23:07AM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 08:03:23AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > Out of curiosity, I checked my system to see if there were any system
> > > users with home directories under /home.  The only one I found is "ntp".
> 
> > How old is your system?  I just checked a machine that I initially as a
> > Woody (3.0) system in 2001 and there is no ntp user directory under
> > /home.
> 
> Well, you probably didn't install the ntp pacakge. ;-)
> 
> I *think* this system was installed as stretch, so I downloaded a stretch
> package of ntp:
> 
> unicorn:~/tmp/x$ dpkg-deb -R ../ntp_4.2.8p10+dfsg-3+deb9u2_amd64.deb .
> unicorn:~/tmp/x$ grep adduser DEBIAN/postinst 
> 	adduser --system --quiet --ingroup ntp --no-create-home ntp
> 
> I'm not 100% sure, but I think that creates a user with a home directory
> under /home, even though it doesn't actually create that directory.
> 
> I also just fired up a fresh wheezy chroot and the ntp postinst
> > has this:
> > 
> > adduser --system --quiet --ingroup ntp --no-create-home ntp
> > 
> > Did you perhaps modify your ntp config at a time when you might have
> > been limited on space under /var?
> 
> ... uh, I don't think so?
> 
> Let's test this sucker and find out:
> 
> unicorn:~/tmp/x$ sudo adduser --system --quiet --ingroup ntp --no-create-home zzntp
> unicorn:~/tmp/x$ grep zzntp /etc/passwd 
> zzntp:x:115:112::/home/zzntp:/usr/sbin/nologin
> 
> As I guessed.  That's what it did.

Quite right.  That explains the motivation a few years ago to begin
explicitly specifying the home directory as /nonexistent for system
users not meant to have an actual home directory.

So, the existence of /home/ntp on the OP's system, or any system
installed from a Debian release prior to the last 4-ish years, could be
attributed to some process or series of actions that decides, "hey, this
ntp user's home directory is missing, I should create it".  Whether
those actions be manual or the result of some script or service, that
seems the most likely way for that directory to appear on a system.

Regards,

-Roberto

-- 
Roberto C. Sánchez

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  Re: how to forbid debhelper to modify /home ? Erwan David <erwan@rail.eu.org> - 2021-09-03 11:50 +0200
    Re: how to forbid debhelper to modify /home ? rhkramer@gmail.com - 2021-09-03 14:10 +0200
    Re: how to forbid debhelper to modify /home ? Harald Dunkel <harald.dunkel@aixigo.com> - 2021-09-03 15:40 +0200
  Re: how to forbid debhelper to modify /home ? Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2021-09-03 14:00 +0200
    Re: how to forbid debhelper to modify /home ? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-09-03 14:10 +0200
      Re: how to forbid debhelper to modify /home ? "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-09-03 14:20 +0200
      Re: how to forbid debhelper to modify /home ? Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2021-09-03 14:30 +0200
        Re: how to forbid debhelper to modify /home ? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-09-03 14:40 +0200
          Re: how to forbid debhelper to modify /home ? Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2021-09-03 14:40 +0200
            Re: how to forbid debhelper to modify /home ? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-09-03 14:50 +0200
        Re: how to forbid debhelper to modify /home ? Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2021-09-03 15:20 +0200
        Re: how to forbid debhelper to modify /home ? Jonathan Dowland <jon+debian-user@dow.land> - 2021-09-06 12:30 +0200
    Re: how to forbid debhelper to modify /home ? Harald Dunkel <harald.dunkel@aixigo.com> - 2021-09-03 16:00 +0200
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