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Re: masked service file

From Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: masked service file
Date 2021-09-01 17:30 +0200
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On Wed, Sep 01, 2021 at 04:06:37PM +0100, mick crane wrote:
> On 2021-09-01 15:15, Brian wrote:
> > * saned is socket activated.
> > * saned@.service manages saned instances.
> > * saned.service is masked because it is an empty file.
> > * The file is empty to allow all instances to be managed together.

Sounds informative.  Maybe thie Brian person knows a thing or two about
saned and you should consider listening.

> I reinstalled the OS because I didn't like the LVM and also I wanted it to
> be EFI and not BIOS.
> So thought I'd install Bookworm as I'm about it, got loads of errors purging
> saned and scanbd, trying to get scanning to work again, something about
> files not really being files.
> I gave up and have reinstalled Bullseye as I know that works.
> It's only a day to put everything back as I like, or maybe a bit more.

Backstory.  Probably irrelevant.

> My original question was why do things get masked.

Because the package maintainer thought it was a good idea, or because
you, the system administrator, thought it was a good idea.

You seem to think you can ask some kind of generic meta-question about
masking and get a meaningful answer.

You can't.

You need SPECIFIC information about a SPECIFIC situation.

YOUR situation.

Pretending that the details of your situation don't matter is ludicrous.

> "Systemctl status the-service" was saying it's masked because it's masked

YOU CANNOT FUDGE THE SERVICE NAMES IN YOUR REQUESTS FOR HELP!

Show the ACTUAL command you ran.  Show its ACTUAL output.

> which is not very informative but it must be a nightmare for the maintainers
> to cover all eventualities.

Well, what do you EXPECT?

Do you think your init system has some way to know WHY it was given a
command?  And that it stores these reasons somewhere, and can cough them
up on demand?

Do you ask your shell why the user typed "ls /tmp"?  What do you expect
the shell to do -- guess the user's intentions?

Do you ask your email program why someone sent you a piece of email?

Do you ask your web browser why the URL you tried to visit has a 404 error?

"Why" is not generally a thing that computer programs understand.

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masked service file mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2021-08-31 19:40 +0200
  Re: masked service file john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com> - 2021-08-31 19:50 +0200
    Re: masked service file Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-08-31 20:50 +0200
      Re: masked service file Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-31 21:00 +0200
        Re: masked service file Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-08-31 21:30 +0200
          Re: masked service file Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-09-01 00:20 +0200
            Re: masked service file Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-09-01 16:20 +0200
              Re: masked service file Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-09-01 17:30 +0200
                Re: masked service file Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-09-01 20:00 +0200
                Re: masked service file Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-09-01 20:10 +0200
                Re: masked service file Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-09-01 21:00 +0200
                Re: masked service file Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-09-01 21:20 +0200
                Re: masked service file "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-09-05 16:00 +0200
                Re: masked service file <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-09-05 17:10 +0200
                Re: masked service file Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2021-09-08 18:10 +0200
                Re: masked service file <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-09-08 18:10 +0200
                Re: masked service file Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2021-09-02 12:00 +0200
                Re: masked service file Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-09-02 17:30 +0200
                Re: masked service file Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-09-02 19:00 +0200
                Re: masked service file Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-09-03 00:30 +0200
                Re: masked service file Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-09-03 01:30 +0200

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