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Re: Can't switch back to gnome on xorg

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Thanks a lot Cindy,

I just wanted to use a screencast application and could not find one 
that works on Wayland.

That's why I wanted to switch back to Gnome on Xorg.

But it seems to be beyond my ability.

There's no problem, I can live without that. Maybe I will find some app 
that works on Wayland.

I appreciate your help.

Hansoo

On 2021/08/25 15:40, Cindy Sue Causey wrote:
> On 8/25/21, Hansoo Chang <chang@socrate.jp> wrote:
>> Dear Friends,
>>
>> I am using Debian Buster with gnome on wayland.
>>
>> Recently, I tried to switch back to gnome on xorg at the start-up login
>> screen choosing the 'gnome on xorg'.
>>
>> However, I am immediately turned back to the original login screen.
>>
>> I searched the web, but could not find a solution.
>>
>> I will appreciate it if somebody would help me on this matter.
>
> Hi, Hansoo... Up top here before the rest of the email as I first
> wrote it: The next time it happens, can you try doing something like
> CTRL+ALT+F3 (or F4 or) then try logging in there to see if you receive
> any error messages that might help. That's where I received one part
> of the information that helped me eventually fix the loop I kept
> hitting a while back. Your loop is slightly different sounding so that
> might not provide any information.
>
> Something that might help is to know how your /home directory is set
> up. Is it on the same partition as everything else, e.g. /etc, /lib,
> and /var. Or is it on a different partition, for example, and then you
> mount it all together during each boot?
>
> If it is on a different partition, is there anything in your /home
> partition BEFORE you mount things? I know to ask this because that's
> where my problem MIGHT be coming from sometimes. You might need to hit
> CTRL+H to see what's there.
>
> Ok, now the rest of the email as I first wrote it before thinking the
> above, too...
>
> Unfortunately, I probably don't have an answer, but I'm writing anyway
> to say that you're not alone, and it's apparently not just GNOME.
> Apparently MATE's doing possibly the same thing to some extent
> somehow:
>
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-accessibility/2021/08/msg00099.html
>
> That's the start of one thread about it. Without re-reading that
> thread, I was trying to remember what I said then it came to me. This
> is reminding me of how I've multiple times locked myself out of my
> system in a similar loop that ultimately involves ~/.Xauthority.
>
> By experimenting, the fix I tripped over was to move the old
> .Xauthority out of the way by renaming it then let my system create a
> new one when I try to log in again. That might not work here, but
> maybe you could rule it out as a causative in *your* case.
>
> For me, .Xauthority just seems to become corrupted when I'm
> debootstrap'ing a new installation while reusing my old /home
> directory. Maybe I mixed them together or something, and they clash.
> That could be a point where corruption would occur even though it's
> ultimately only about three files that aren't even .Xauthority:
> .bash_logout, .bashrc, and .profile as found under /etc/skel that's
> used for creating new Users...
>
> As a very last thought, what might corrupt things in my case is that
> maybe I log in to my new installation without first mounting my many
> years old /home directories. That would create a brand new .Xauthority
> file.. and then when I do mount the very old /home directory, that
> ALSO contains an old, longstanding .Xauthority file.
>
> Maybe that's where *my* issue comes from along the way and that causes
> the exact same loop that you all are now describing for GNOME and
> MATE. Mine's on XFCE4, by the way, but I believe the culprit is me,
> not the desktop environment. :)
>
> One last, last thought is that's unusual to now see two people with
> this. It reminds me of when Debian's code starting tightening up a few
> years back. Maybe there were some loose strings involving logins, and
> now that's been fixed such that Debian's not as tolerant about
> clashes. That would be a good thing because it would be about the
> safety of our systems overall. :)
>
> Cindy :)

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Can't switch back to gnome on xorg Hansoo Chang <chang@socrate.jp> - 2021-08-25 07:20 +0200
  Re: Can't switch back to gnome on xorg Cindy Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2021-08-25 08:50 +0200
    Re: Can't switch back to gnome on xorg Hansoo Chang <chang@socrate.jp> - 2021-08-26 00:40 +0200

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