Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye

From	Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye
Date	2021-08-18 10:20 +0200
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On Wed, 2021-08-18 at 09:03 +0200, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 10:01:32PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 09:48:10PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 17 August 2021 18:48:34 Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> > > > [an abridged version of the release notes]
> > 
> > > Thank you Andy, thats more of the recipe I need to follow.
> > > 
> > > Cheers, Gene Heskett
> > 
> > See, *this* is exactly what I tried to avoid -- giving someone an
> > inferior version of the release notes, empowering their laziness,
> [...]
> 
> What's this new fashion around here? If you don't want to help
> someone, that's your right.

Greg *was* trying to help Gene (and us) by getting him to read
documentation from the Debian project, rather than picking one of
several different 'easy' suggestions from this list.

If you read the release notes you get a clue what to expect and what to
do. Or you can not bother and just rely on the helpful people on this
list.

I know from my upgrade to Buster I had to take action due to AppArmor
and nftables now being default and ending up migrating from legacy
network names to new 'predictable' network names. Looking at the
release notes again, there's also changes to increase security with
sshd and OpenSSL, and with Systemd needing entropy at boot (Gene has
some ARM boards the latter may hit).

Want to take bets that Gene won't be back in a few days with problems
caused by some of the above changes? He could save himself, and you,
time and hassle if he read the release notes.

-- 
Tixy

Thread

Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2021-08-17 13:30 +0200
  Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-08-17 14:10 +0200
    Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-08-17 15:10 +0200
      Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-08-17 15:20 +0200
      Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-17 15:30 +0200
      Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2021-08-17 16:10 +0200
        Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-08-17 21:20 +0200
          Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-08-18 13:30 +0200
    Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2021-08-17 15:10 +0200
      Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2021-08-17 15:30 +0200
    Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-08-18 04:10 +0200
  Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-08-17 18:10 +0200
    Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-17 19:40 +0200
      Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-17 19:50 +0200
      Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-08-17 19:50 +0200
      Reading of release notes (was Re: Still on stretch, getting ready  for bullseye) The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-08-18 13:40 +0200
        Re: Reading of release notes (was Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2021-08-18 14:30 +0200
          Re: Reading of release notes (was Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye) Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2021-08-18 15:10 +0200
            Re: Reading of release notes (was Re: Still on stretch, getting  ready for bullseye) songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-08-19 14:30 +0200
              Re: Reading of release notes (was Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye) Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2021-08-20 11:30 +0200
              Re: Reading of release notes (was Re: Still on stretch, getting ready  for bullseye) piorunz <piorunz@gmx.com> - 2021-08-20 13:00 +0200
                Re: Reading of release notes (was Re: Still on stretch, getting  ready for bullseye) Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-08-20 13:50 +0200
                Re: Reading of release notes (was Re: Still on stretch, getting ready  for bullseye) piorunz <piorunz@gmx.com> - 2021-08-20 15:40 +0200
                Re: Reading of release notes (was Re: Still on stretch, getting  ready for bullseye) songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-08-21 02:40 +0200
          Re: Reading of release notes (was Re: Still on stretch, getting  ready for bullseye) songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-08-19 14:50 +0200
        Re: Reading of release notes (was Re: Still on stretch, getting  ready for bullseye) David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-08-18 18:30 +0200
          Re: Reading of release notes (was Re: Still on stretch, getting  ready for bullseye) "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-08-18 23:20 +0200
    Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2021-08-17 23:00 +0200
      Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-08-17 23:00 +0200
        Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye piorunz <piorunz@gmx.com> - 2021-08-17 23:50 +0200
          Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2021-08-18 03:40 +0200
        Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2021-08-18 02:10 +0200
          Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye Kushal Kumaran <kushal@locationd.net> - 2021-08-18 03:40 +0200
      Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-18 00:10 +0200
        Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-08-18 00:50 +0200
          Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-18 01:30 +0200
            Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-19 07:40 +0200
          Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye piorunz <piorunz@gmx.com> - 2021-08-18 03:00 +0200
            Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-08-18 05:30 +0200
            Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-08-18 09:00 +0200
              Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye piorunz <piorunz@gmx.com> - 2021-08-18 13:10 +0200
          Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2021-08-18 03:50 +0200
            Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-08-18 04:10 +0200
              Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-08-18 09:10 +0200
                Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2021-08-18 10:20 +0200
                Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-08-18 14:10 +0200
                Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2021-08-18 19:30 +0200
              Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2021-08-18 09:50 +0200
                Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2021-08-18 10:40 +0200
                Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2021-08-20 20:20 +0200
                Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye piorunz <piorunz@gmx.com> - 2021-08-18 12:40 +0200
                Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2021-08-19 18:00 +0200
          Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2021-08-18 12:40 +0200
        Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-08-19 07:30 +0200
  Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2021-08-17 21:10 +0200

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