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Re: Moving from Testing to Stable + Backports

From Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Moving from Testing to Stable + Backports
Date 2021-08-17 13:40 +0200
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On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 08:44:49AM +0200, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 08:27:18PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian
> 
> Yes. We know that one.

Do we?  Do we really?

Then why do people keep violating it so flagrantly?

> Whoever is mixing suites should have
> read that. And be prepared to cope with some or other degree
> of brokenness.

No.  They shouldn't do it.  At all!

It's not OK to mix binary ("deb") repositories for stable and anything
newer than stable if your end goal is, and I quote, "Moving from Testing
to Stable + Backports".

If you mix binary repositories, then you are running whichever release
has the highest-numbered packages out of your set of binary repositories.

This means: if you mix binary repositories for stable and testing, you
are running testing.  You are NOT running "stable with a bit of testing
here and there".  You're running testing.  Full stop.

If you try to complicate your life by adding pinning, this does NOT mean
you are running "stable with a bit of testing".  No.  It means you're
running a BROKEN version of testing.  When it comes crashing down around
you, we will continue to tell you to please Don't Break Debian.

> Reminding people of that seems OK, but yelling at them in
> public... hm.

If I don't "yell", they don't listen.

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Moving from Testing to Stable + Backports Michael Grant <mgrant@grant.org> - 2021-08-16 11:20 +0200
  Re: Moving from Testing to Stable + Backports "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-08-16 12:40 +0200
  Re: Moving from Testing to Stable + Backports Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-08-16 13:30 +0200
    Re: Moving from Testing to Stable + Backports Michael Grant <mgrant@grant.org> - 2021-08-16 14:30 +0200
      Re: Moving from Testing to Stable + Backports Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-08-16 14:40 +0200
    Re: Moving from Testing to Stable + Backports songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-08-17 02:00 +0200
      Re: Moving from Testing to Stable + Backports Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-08-17 02:30 +0200
        Re: Moving from Testing to Stable + Backports <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-08-17 08:50 +0200
          Re: Moving from Testing to Stable + Backports Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-08-17 13:40 +0200
        Re: Moving from Testing to Stable + Backports songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-08-17 15:10 +0200
          Re: Moving from Testing to Stable + Backports Michael Grant <mgrant@grant.org> - 2021-08-17 16:50 +0200
            Re: Moving from Testing to Stable + Backports Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-08-17 17:30 +0200
              Re: Moving from Testing to Stable + Backports David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-08-19 05:10 +0200
  Re: Moving from Testing to Stable + Backports Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-08-31 11:00 +0200

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