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Re: Ubuntu, part 2

From Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Ubuntu, part 2
Date 2014-05-09 10:06 -0700
Message-ID <CF925922.36E2D%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> (permalink)
References (11 earlier) <slrnlmneub.d2d.jedi@nomad.mishnet> <bt1uajF4be9U1@mid.individual.net> <lkh9iu$ou0$2@dont-email.me> <slrnlmptr8.1jq.jedi@nomad.mishnet> <bt4dskFk839U1@mid.individual.net>

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On 5/9/14, 9:25 AM, in article bt4dskFk839U1@mid.individual.net, "White
Spirit" <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> wrote:

> On 09/05/2014 16:42, JEDIDIAH wrote:
> 
>>       Apple has the problem of trying to live in some fantasyland that hasn't
>> quite arrived yet. It's funny because Apple users are mindless consumers that
>> have to be led around by the nose. They won't discover the next big thing on
>> their own or wonder what's been taking Microsoft or Apple so long to wise up.
> 
> Although some Mac users are knowledgeable, a good number of them seem to
> go for Apple products because they are trendy.  For me, a computer or a
> 'phone does not constitute a fashion item.

I cannot speak for others but I use a Mac because it offers me the best
value for the money and is in the price range I can afford. I would love to
have a Mac Pro with two great monitors but it is out of my price range - so
I have an iMac (and, really, it serves me darn near as well as the Pro
would).

>> The nice thing about the PC market is that you aren't held hostage to what
>> any one particular company thinks a computer should look like. I can buy a
>> less inelegant solution if I want.
> 
> One problem with Apple is that trying to make things easier sometimes
> backfires in unexpected ways.

In rare cases, yes.

> Their 'magic mouse' is one example; scrolling in four directions is very easy
> but performing a right-click does not always work and can be very frustrating
> when an action you didn't want is performed instead.

But you are not stuck with their mice. Frankly I cannot stand the mice Apple
makes. They feel horrible in my hand, I do not like the build in touch
stuff, etc. I use a Logitech MX518
<http://www.logitech.com/en-us/support/4259>. I am not a gamer, but I love
how the number of buttons (esp. the back and forward), the shape, the fact I
can program it to work differently in different programs, etc.

> Another problem is using the 'magic mouse' to shut down the computer; it is
> pretty much impossible to switch the mouse off afterwards without accidentally
> clicking it, which wakes the computer back up again.  The obvious answer might
> be to close the laptop instead in order to put it to sleep but that
> functionality has broken since I updated my laptop to Mavericks.

My answer: throw the horrid little Apple rodent in a draw and use a much
better one. :) Even for most users I suggest a more "standard" Logitech.

> In fact, the sleep function is broken more generally with Mavericks on
> my Macbook (needed for work for DFS' information), often crashing the
> machine.

This would be a very uncommon problem...

> If I made a list of bugs and problems with Mavericks, it would put
> Snit's largely contrived list of KDE bugs to shame.

I am calling utter bullshit on this. Complete and utter bullshit.

But if you think I am wrong show it. My videos did not take long to make...
so no reason for you not to show what you claim. KDE is an utter disaster!

-- 
* Mint MATE: Trash, Panel, Menu:    <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE>
* Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs?     <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA>
* Mint KDE working with folders:    <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0>
* Mint KDE creating files:          <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8>
* Mint KDE help:                    <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8>
* Mint KDE general navigation:      <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI>
* Mint / LibreOffice:               <http://youtu.be/USU9iqppfto>
* Win 8 / Word 2013:                <http://youtu.be/z8gUL2TCcV4>
* Mavericks / Pages 5.1:            <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk>

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Ubuntu, part 2 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-06 18:11 -0400
  Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-06 17:06 -0700
  Re: Ubuntu, part 2 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-06 20:39 -0400
    Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-06 17:44 -0700
    Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-06 21:27 -0400
      Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.invalid> - 2014-05-07 04:21 +0200
      Re: Ubuntu, part 2 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-06 21:00 -0600
        Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-07 08:55 -0400
          Re: Ubuntu, part 2 White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-07 15:37 +0100
            Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-07 12:42 -0400
            Re: Ubuntu, part 2 JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-07 14:22 -0500
              Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-07 13:07 -0700
              Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-07 18:16 -0400
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-05-08 00:21 +0200
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-07 15:28 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-05-08 00:38 +0200
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-07 16:07 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-07 16:58 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-07 20:26 -0400
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-07 17:55 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-07 20:23 -0400
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-07 17:56 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-08 10:42 +0100
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-08 07:51 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-08 17:06 +0200
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-08 08:20 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-08 10:39 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-08 09:57 -0600
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-08 17:18 +0100
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-08 09:20 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-08 18:53 -0400
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-09 07:32 -0400
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-09 09:17 -0400
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-09 15:28 +0200
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-09 09:32 -0400
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-08 08:54 -0400
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-08 08:03 -0500
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-08 07:56 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-08 09:59 -0600
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-08 11:57 -0500
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-08 11:14 -0600
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-08 11:57 -0500
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-08 12:07 -0500
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-08 12:15 -0500
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-08 12:48 -0500
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-08 19:28 -0500
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-08 21:04 -0400
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-09 07:33 -0400
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-09 13:38 +0200
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-09 07:41 -0400
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-09 10:42 -0500
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-09 17:25 +0100
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-09 12:47 -0400
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-09 17:54 +0100
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-09 12:56 -0400
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-09 18:00 +0100
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-09 13:20 -0400
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-09 10:24 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-09 11:23 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-09 10:18 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-12 14:00 -0400
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-12 11:29 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-12 17:54 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-09 13:14 -0400
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-09 10:19 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-10 00:29 +0100
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-09 16:39 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-10 09:46 -0400
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-10 09:09 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-10 23:10 +0100
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-10 15:25 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-10 16:11 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-10 20:06 -0400
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-12 13:53 +0100
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-12 21:24 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-09 13:12 -0400
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-09 10:20 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-10 00:43 +0100
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-09 16:48 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-09 16:56 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-10 09:49 -0400
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-10 09:07 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-12 13:54 +0100
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-12 08:51 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-09 10:17 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-09 12:55 -0400
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-09 10:06 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-12 14:02 -0400
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-12 20:20 +0200
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-12 11:30 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-09 10:34 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-09 10:44 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-08 18:03 -0400
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-08 17:08 -0600
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-08 19:38 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-08 11:37 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-08 07:50 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-08 11:53 -0500
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-07 15:27 -0700
          Re: Ubuntu, part 2 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-07 09:35 -0600
            Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-07 13:00 -0400
              Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-07 10:19 -0700
              Re: Ubuntu, part 2 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-07 11:37 -0600
      Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2014-05-07 17:25 +0100
    Re: Ubuntu, part 2 White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-07 15:16 +0100
      Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-07 10:16 -0700

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