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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.advocacy |
| Subject | Re: The Hooligan Brigade has taken over |
| Date | 2014-05-07 10:46 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <CF8FBF8E.36AE9%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> (permalink) |
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On 5/7/14, 10:13 AM, in article lkdpjc$51j$1@dont-email.me, "Silver Slimer"
<slvrslmr@lv.c> wrote:
>> You lost some Usenet debates.
>>
>> Which "debates" and where is your "proof that he lost them?
>
> The debates I supposedly lost are 1) the one where he posted a video of
> some random, insignificant idiot giving his opinion on the NRA and
> asking me to refute it
I never asked you to refute it. But you attempted to - though your best
effort was to name call and attack, at least for your first 60 posts or
something like that. Then you made a somewhat better effort but your logic
was still flawed. This really pissed you off. My noting how the video, with
all of its falsifiable claims, still stood unrefuted pissed you off even
more and you became angry. In a classic example of misplaced aggression you
attacked *me* for merely noting how the video was not refuted, as if your
own failures were *my* fault. It was amazing to watch... and such is very
common in COLA - it is as if reason and logic are actively shunned. This is
one of the things that keeps COLA interesting to me - in most of the circles
I am in, people strive to respect logic and reason and evidence and data.
Here, though, that is seen as a weakness. Truly fascinating!
> and 2) articles from mainstream media which demonize Cliven Bundy.
Wait: they "demonize" some guy who is demanding government handouts,
threatening violence, and insisting others should give up their second
amendment rights... oh, and spewing horrid bigoted nonsense. Frankly he
"demonized" himself.
But if you disagree, *fine*, but do not just spew attacks, use *reasoning
and logic*. But you have none. You tried a few times, here, but the evidence
was just horrid. The best you might be able to do is say law enforcement did
not act perfectly in response to his trespassing and theft. And maybe they
did not - though so far that has not been shown. Someone - maybe you -
pointed to a couple videos trying to show this and I ripped that apart.
<http://youtu.be/3W1hSKT9NzE>
If you have a counter I am open to it... but so far there seems to be none.
So you went to your go-to irrational attacks and insults.
> In the first case, I refused to refute the video because opinions are not
> meant to be refuted.
Feel free not to. Remember, contrary to your lies, nobody asked you to. But
also be aware that there is a lot of falsifiable information in the video -
it is hardly all "opinion". That does not mean there are also not opinions
expressed - but so be it. Your claim is still simply incorrect.
> It's the same thing as an asshole posting a video claiming that women are
> dumber than men but providing no evidence.
False analogy.
> Talking about that is entirely worthless and gives more value to the video
> than it deserves. In the case of Cliven Bundy, it is clear that the government
> overstepped and did way too much to a man who could just as easily have been
> brought to court.
If you think this is the case then *support* it. But keep in mind they have
spent 20 years in court with him and he has lost every case. He *still* is
trespassing and stealing. Twenty years of this! At what point would you
force someone off *your* land? I bet you would not go a *week* of a neighbor
letting their cows wonder through your yard!
> Of course, the mainstream media preferred to demonize him and essentially
> become apologists for the fact that the police harassed the man and his
> supporter, confiscated his property unlawfully and killed it for fun.
Aha! Claims. Let's see if you can back them:
* The police harassed him. How? When? What evidence do you have?
* The police harassed his supporters? How? When? What evidence do you have?
* The police confiscated his property. What property? When? What evidence?
* The police killed his cattle *for fun*. Again, what evidence.
I am open to it, Silver Slimer. Unlike you I have an open mind and am
willing to look at the evidence and the logic.
In other words: stop with the name calling, stop with the false analogies,
stop with the lies about people asking you to refute things they never did,
stop with the emotional outbursts when you find you cannot back your
emotion-based views. Work to use logic and reasoning. That is really what I
am encouraging you to do.
You respond with anger. At me? Well, on the surface, sure, but this is
misplaced aggression. The real source of your anger is almost surely your
own lack of success in using logic and reasoning and evidence to back your
claims. At some level you have realized you cannot back your views. So be
it.
> When it became clear in the first debate that Snatch wasn't being respectful
> of how debates work, I lost interest in dealing with him.
False accusation.
> In the second case, Snatch systematically bent the rules and decided that any
> evidence submitted either didn't exist or wasn't relevant which made it clear
> that he's a twat.
False accusation and name calling. Again you eschew logic and reasoning.
> Either way, I'm much happier now that I don't see his posts at all.
Unlikely... but you sure are obsessing over me in many of your posts. Not as
much as flatfish and nowhere near what Carroll does, though.
Still, you have become much like Peter Köhlmann... a person you claimed to
not respect. This implies you do not respect yourself... and is another
likely source of your anger.
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