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Re: Many want Linux.

From Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Many want Linux.
Date 2014-05-07 09:32 -0700
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On 5/7/14, 9:08 AM, in article bsv446FgnrrU1@mid.individual.net, "Lloyd  E
Parsons" <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:

...
>>> Why bother with "Lloyd" -- he's an unhappy mix of the bitter old biddy
>>> Hadron and the obsessive crank Snit.
>>> 
>>> Let him burble his nonsense to himself.
>> 
>> In the end you cannot refute him nor can you do anything but blame the
>> boogieman for the extreme failure of Linux on the desktop. It is free. It is
>> readily available. It has been marketed by Dell and HP and Walmart and
>> others. It runs on most hardware. It has a cult-like group pushing it and
>> its "philosophy". It offers massive "choice", if you want to see distros as
>> that (though when we talk usage somehow they all get combined as if they are
>> one... funny that, eh?).
>> 
>> With all of that, with all distros combined as if they were the same and
>> offered no choice, it still has yet to get to 2% usage. And much of that is
>> because it is free and runs on older hardware.
>> 
>> That is not what success looks like.
> 
> They don't often have anything in their bag of tricks to show that
> facts on the ground say that Linux desktop is a dud anyway you look at
> it.  Well except for the hobby nature of it.

Hobbyists and some programmers and others who live in the command line. And
people who cannot afford other solutions or who are willing to sacrifice
usability and functionality, both in a big way, for a philosophy. To be
clear: I am not putting any of these groups down - but they are, even
combined, fairly small. From the data: less than 2% of usage.

Considering how lots of people try Linux for a while and then give up on it,
it is likely that maybe a half of that usage is from people doing this (all
it takes is a very small percentage of "others" to get this). This means
there *might* be 1% of users who stick with Linux. And that is all distros
combined... if you count those as "choices", no one choice (distro) likely
has 1/3 of one percent of usage in terms of a standard desktop for users.

That is *not* success for a free product that is readily available and has
been marketed by some of the largest companies in the world!

> First they tried to denigrate me because of my sales background, yet
> then they show where sales and marketing makes a huge difference in how
> well a product does.  They all seem to be of a mind that the 'engineer'
> or geeks are the ones that make or break a product when history shows
> that not to be the case.  A great design needs a great marketing
> campaign to do well in the market.  That's just a fact.

Attacking you for your background is a non-starter anyway. The evidence is
what matters.

> Now here's some idiocy from them:
> 
> Chrisv talked about how desktop Linux wasn't ever 'marketed'.  If that
> is true, that pretty much tells the tale of why it continues to not
> find a market.  You have to wonder if desktop Linux had been marketed,
> what would have been the result?  First would have been the
> disappearance of most of the 'distributions', the slew of them just
> confuse a market.  But of course, the old conspiracies would come into
> play about how it isn't 'fair' and all that other bullshit.  But here's
> Google, taking on MS' wheelhouse on the desktop/laptop with Chromebooks
> and finding a market for them.  If all the bullshit conspiracies were
> correct, this just couldn't happen.

Right. And Ubuntu *has* been marketed by Dell and HP and Walmart (I think
they each used Ubuntu - but even if not, some flavor has been). The idea it
has not been marketed is simply wrong... and if it was a good solution it
would be marketed more. Do you think Dell and HP like having to dance to the
tune of MS? Do you think they want to pay for an OS for the hardware they
sell? They would jump at a chance to cut those costs if they could make more
money doing so. 

> Then one other pinhead here mentioned Rolls Royce among other auto
> makers that don't 'market'.  Well of course, that is horseshit of the
> purest sort.  Rolls Royce does market, just not where the normal
> consumer markets are looking.  Why would they want to advertise in
> mediums that are reaching mostly people that couldn't afford the Rolls
> at all.  The answer is, you don't.  That's why it isn't just
> 'marketing', it is 'effective marketing'.  Picking your market and then
> feeding it in the way that gets to those that can take advantage of it.

Again, correct. 

> It appears to me that the geeks and 'engineers' here need to get out of
> the shop more!

The COLA "advocates" need to stop blaming the boogieman for the failure of
desktop Linux.


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  Re: No one wants Linux. 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-02 07:44 -0400
    Re: No one wants Linux. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-02 13:16 -0400
      Re: No one wants Linux. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-02 10:37 -0700
        Re: No one wants Linux. Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-02 11:24 -0700
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      Re: No one wants Linux. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-03 07:25 -0400
        Re: No one wants Linux. Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-03 07:09 -0500
          Re: No one wants Linux. 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-03 08:59 -0400
            Re: No one wants Linux. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-03 12:57 -0700
              Re: No one wants Linux. Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-03 13:54 -0700
              Re: No one wants Linux. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-03 14:31 -0700
                Re: No one wants Linux. Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-03 16:58 -0700
          Re: No one wants Linux. Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-03 08:58 -0700
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          Re: No one wants Linux. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-06 07:16 -0500
            Re: No one wants Linux. Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-06 07:32 -0500
              Re: No one wants Linux. Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-06 07:46 -0500
              Re: No one wants Linux. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-06 09:12 -0500
                Re: No one wants Linux. William Poaster <wp@induh-vidual.net> - 2014-05-06 15:29 +0100
                Re: No one wants Linux. 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-06 10:57 -0400
                Re: No one wants Linux. Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-06 12:32 -0500
                Re: No one wants Linux. Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-06 12:30 -0500
                Re: No one wants Linux. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-06 12:36 -0500
                Re: No one wants Linux. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-06 10:53 -0700
                Re: No one wants Linux. Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-06 13:07 -0500
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                Re: No one wants Linux. JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-06 13:41 -0500
                Re: No one wants Linux. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-06 14:06 -0500
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                Re: No one wants Linux. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-06 11:20 -0700
        Re: No one wants Linux. 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-03 08:56 -0400
        Re: No one wants Linux. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-06 06:55 -0500
          Re: No one wants Linux. 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-06 08:11 -0400
            Re: No one wants Linux. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-05-06 14:26 +0200
              Re: No one wants Linux. Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-06 07:44 -0500
                Re: No one wants Linux. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-06 08:04 -0500
                Re: No one wants Linux. "Cola Zealot" <Cola_Zealot@fuckoff.com> - 2014-05-06 17:00 +0200
                Re: No one wants Linux. Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-06 12:44 -0500
                Re: No one wants Linux. Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-06 13:58 -0400
                Re: No one wants Linux. Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-06 13:09 -0500
                Re: No one wants Linux. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-06 11:17 -0700
                Re: No one wants Linux. JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-06 13:40 -0500
                Re: No one wants Linux. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-06 12:13 -0700
                Re: No one wants Linux. Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-06 17:23 -0400
                Re: No one wants Linux. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-06 11:16 -0700
                Re: No one wants Linux. JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-06 13:03 -0500
                Re: No one wants Linux. Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-06 13:16 -0500
                Re: No one wants Linux. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-06 13:22 -0500
                Re: No one wants Linux. JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-06 13:46 -0500
                Re: No one wants Linux. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-06 12:08 -0700
                Re: No one wants Linux. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-06 17:44 -0400
                Re: No one wants Linux. Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-07 12:56 -0700
                Re: No one wants Linux. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-06 13:10 -0500
                Re: No one wants Linux. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-06 11:34 -0700
                Re: No one wants Linux. Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-06 13:40 -0700
                Many want Linux. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-06 21:10 -0400
                Re: Many want Linux. 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-06 21:13 -0400
                Re: Many want Linux. Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-06 21:33 -0400
                Re: Many want Linux. Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-06 21:30 -0400
                Re: Many want Linux. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-06 19:25 -0700
                Re: Many want Linux. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-06 18:36 -0700
                Re: Many want Linux. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-06 23:40 -0400
                Re: No one wants Linux. JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-06 12:43 -0500
                Re: No one wants Linux. Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-06 13:14 -0500
                Re: No one wants Linux. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-06 11:33 -0700
                Re: No one wants Linux. JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-06 13:44 -0500
                Re: No one wants Linux. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-06 12:09 -0700
                Re: No one wants Linux. JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-06 12:41 -0500
                Re: No one wants Linux. Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-06 13:13 -0500
                Re: No one wants Linux. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-06 13:25 -0500
                Re: No one wants Linux. JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-06 13:42 -0500
                Re: No one wants Linux. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-06 14:49 -0500
                Re: No one wants Linux. 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-06 15:55 -0400
                Re: No one wants Linux. Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-06 13:51 -0700
                Re: No one wants Linux. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-05-07 01:21 +0200
                Re: No one wants Linux. 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-06 20:33 -0400
                Re: No one wants Linux. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-05-07 03:01 +0200
                Re: No one wants Linux. 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-06 21:09 -0400
                Re: No one wants Linux. William Poaster <wp@induh-vidual.net> - 2014-05-07 10:22 +0100
                Re: No one wants Linux. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-07 06:47 -0500
                Re: No one wants Linux. William Poaster <wp@induh-vidual.net> - 2014-05-07 13:20 +0100
                Re: No one wants Linux. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-05-07 14:38 +0200
                Re: No one wants Linux. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-07 07:54 -0500
                Re: No one wants Linux. William Poaster <wp@induh-vidual.net> - 2014-05-07 22:52 +0100
                Re: No one wants Linux. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-08 06:58 -0500
                Re: No one wants Linux. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-07 08:24 -0700
                Re: No one wants Linux. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-07 10:16 -0400
                Re: No one wants Linux. Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-07 19:01 +0200
                Re: No one wants Linux. tinus61 <tinus61@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-08 01:18 +0200
                Re: No one wants Linux. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-07 18:18 -0600
                Re: No one wants Linux. William Poaster <wp@induh-vidual.net> - 2014-05-08 09:01 +0100
                Re: No one wants Linux. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-12 14:00 -0400
                Re: No one wants Linux. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-12 11:16 -0700
                Re: No one wants Linux. Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-12 20:17 +0200
                Re: No one wants Linux. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-12 11:33 -0700
                Re: No one wants Linux. Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-06 21:21 -0400
                Re: No one wants Linux. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-06 18:34 -0700
                Re: No one wants Linux. 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-06 21:50 -0400
                Re: No one wants Linux. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-06 19:21 -0700
                Re: No one wants Linux. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-06 21:04 -0700
                Re: No one wants Linux. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-06 20:51 -0600
                Re: No one wants Linux. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-06 20:23 -0700
                Re: No one wants Linux. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-06 11:19 -0700
                Re: No one wants Linux. 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-06 14:30 -0400
              Re: No one wants Linux. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-06 08:00 -0500
                Re: No one wants Linux. 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-06 09:10 -0400
                Re: No one wants Linux. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-06 09:21 -0400
                Re: No one wants Linux. 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-06 09:40 -0400
                Re: No one wants Linux. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-06 08:57 -0700
                Re: No one wants Linux. Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-06 09:56 -0700
      Re: No one wants Linux. 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-03 08:53 -0400
  Re: No one wants Surface tablets Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-02 08:04 -0400
  Re: No one wants Surface tablets Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-02 08:57 -0400
    Re: No one wants Surface tablets 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-02 09:04 -0400
      Re: No one wants Surface tablets Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-02 09:16 -0400
        Re: No one wants Surface tablets 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-02 09:25 -0400
          Re: No one wants Surface tablets Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-02 10:55 -0400
      Re: No one wants Surface tablets White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-02 16:04 +0100
        Re: No one wants Surface tablets 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-02 11:20 -0400
          Re: No one wants Surface tablets Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-02 11:27 -0400
          Re: No one wants Surface tablets Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-02 17:35 +0200
            Re: No one wants Surface tablets Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-02 09:03 -0700
              Re: No one wants Surface tablets Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-02 11:31 -0700
        Re: No one wants Surface tablets GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-02 11:01 -0600
      Re: No one wants Surface tablets GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-02 10:58 -0600
        Re: No one wants Surface tablets Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-02 12:03 -0500
          Re: No one wants Surface tablets 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-02 13:53 -0400
            Re: No one wants Surface tablets Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-02 13:34 -0500
              Re: No one wants Surface tablets JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-02 14:04 -0500
                Re: No one wants Surface tablets Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-02 14:26 -0500
                Re: No one wants Surface tablets 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-02 15:49 -0400
                Re: No one wants Surface tablets JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-02 14:59 -0500
                Re: No one wants Surface tablets Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-02 15:20 -0500
                Re: No one wants Surface tablets JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-02 16:00 -0500
                Re: No one wants Surface tablets Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-02 23:11 +0200
                Re: No one wants Surface tablets 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-02 17:13 -0400
                Re: No one wants Surface tablets Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-05-03 00:11 +0200
                Re: No one wants Surface tablets Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-02 22:11 -0500
                Re: No one wants Surface tablets Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-02 18:05 -0700
                Re: No one wants Surface tablets Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-02 22:05 -0500
                My C# macro/extension hides the sign·in button.  Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2014-05-03 00:41 -0700
              Re: No one wants Surface tablets GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-02 13:28 -0600
                Re: No one wants Surface tablets Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-02 14:30 -0500
            Re: No one wants Surface tablets GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-02 13:28 -0600
          Re: No one wants Surface tablets GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-02 13:26 -0600
            Re: No one wants Surface tablets Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-02 14:29 -0500
              Re: No one wants Surface tablets GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-02 14:43 -0600
    Re: No one wants Surface tablets Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2014-05-02 14:36 +0100
      Re: No one wants Surface tablets 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-02 09:39 -0400
      Re: No one wants Surface tablets "Cola Zealot" <Cola_Zealot@fuckoff.com> - 2014-05-02 16:37 +0200
  Re: No one wants Surface tablets Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-02 16:12 -0500
    Re: No one wants Surface tablets JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-02 16:53 -0500
      Re: No one wants Surface tablets Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-02 22:14 -0500
        Re: No one wants Surface tablets Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-02 23:01 -0700
  Re: Many want Linux. Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-06 20:14 -0500
    Re: Many want Linux. 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-06 21:15 -0400
    Re: No one wants Linux. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-06 23:42 -0400
  Re: Many want Linux. Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-06 20:14 -0500
    Re: Many want Linux. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-06 18:35 -0700
    Re: Many want Linux. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-07 05:53 -0400
      Re: Many want Linux. William Poaster <wp@induh-vidual.net> - 2014-05-07 11:16 +0100
        Re: Many want Linux. Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-07 12:21 +0200
      Re: Many want Linux. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2014-05-07 10:25 +0000
        Re: Many want Linux. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-07 08:23 -0700
          Re: Many want Linux. Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-07 11:08 -0500
            Re: Many want Linux. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-07 09:32 -0700
            Re: Many want Linux. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-07 11:45 -0500
              Re: Many want Linux. Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-07 13:10 -0500
                Re: Many want Linux. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-07 11:20 -0700
                Re: Many want Linux. Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-07 13:25 -0500
                Re: Many want Linux. Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-07 20:39 +0200
                Re: Many want Linux. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-07 12:11 -0700
                Re: Many want Linux. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-07 12:12 -0700
                Re: Many want Linux. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-07 13:16 -0500
                Re: Many want Linux. Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-07 13:26 -0500
                Re: Many want Linux. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-07 13:48 -0500
                Re: Many want Linux. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-07 12:49 -0600
              Re: No one wants Linux. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-07 18:41 -0400
              Re: Many want Linux. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2014-05-07 23:47 +0000
                Re: Many want Linux. Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-07 16:57 -0700
                Re: Many want Linux. Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-07 22:14 -0500
                Re: Many want Linux. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-07 20:54 -0700
      Re: Many want Linux. Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-07 09:05 -0400
      Re: Many want Linux. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-07 10:11 -0400
        Re: Many want Linux. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-07 08:38 -0700
        Re: Many want Linux. Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-07 12:34 -0400
    Re: Many want Linux. side job scooter <sjs@aol.com> - 2014-05-08 00:16 +0000
      Re: Many want Linux. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-07 20:24 -0400
        Re: Many want Linux. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-07 17:55 -0700
        Re: Many want Linux. Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-07 22:17 -0500
          Re: Many want Linux. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-07 20:51 -0700
          Re: Many want Linux. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-08 05:55 -0400
        Re: Many want Linux. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-08 07:03 -0500
          Re: Many want Linux. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-08 08:47 -0400
      Re: Many want Linux. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2014-05-08 00:28 +0000
        Re: Many want Linux. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-07 17:54 -0700
      Re: Many want Linux. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-07 17:57 -0700
      Re: Many want Linux. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-07 22:04 -0400
        Re: Many want Linux. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-07 19:13 -0700
      Re: Many want Linux. Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-07 22:16 -0500
        Re: Many want Linux. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-07 20:53 -0700
          Re: Many want Linux. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-12 11:44 -0700
            Re: Many want Linux. Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-12 14:40 -0500
              Re: Many want Linux. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-12 12:57 -0700
              Re: Many want Linux. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-12 13:26 -0700
        Re: Many want Linux. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-08 05:54 -0400
          Re: Many want Linux. William Poaster <wp@induh-vidual.net> - 2014-05-08 11:14 +0100
            Re: Many want Linux. Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-08 09:15 -0400
      Re: Many want Linux. Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-08 14:54 +0200

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