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Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1

From Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1
Date 2014-05-02 12:39 -0700
Message-ID <CF894275.363AD%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> (permalink)
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On 5/2/14, 12:21 PM, in article
Bt6dnRXNrr2vbf7OnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@bresnan.com, "GreyCloud" <mist@cumulus.com>
wrote:

>>> I'm waiting and watching when snit turns on you like he has with
>>> 
>>> everybody else.  You'll see.
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> If by this you mean Snit will tell lies about Hadron, it's already happened,
>> more than once. In any event, all Snit has to do to rile him up is say
>> "Carroll this" or "Carroll that".  Hadron's really not very bright ;)
>> 
> Nah... I'm talking about when Hadron eventually gets his craw full of
> snits crap is when he'll wake up... then the fight will start and snit
> will again be alone, which is his want.

Hadron and I have disagreed before. Heck, over the case sensitivity of
programming languages he got quite mad. He might have even been right. But
in that case I do what I do - I look at the evidence and see where it goes.

It is like getting mad at a C.S.I. for pointing out what the evidence shows.


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Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 "Poisoned by Win 8.1" <trigonometry1972@gmail.com> - 2014-05-01 12:40 -0700
  Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-01 12:50 -0700
  Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-01 17:34 -0400
    Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-01 16:06 -0600
    Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 "Poisoned by Win 8.1" <trigonometry1972@gmail.com> - 2014-05-01 22:51 -0700
      Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-02 08:50 -0400
        Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2014-05-02 14:31 +0100
  Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-01 16:05 -0600
    Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-01 18:28 -0400
      Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-01 18:30 -0400
        Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-01 18:53 -0400
          Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-01 16:06 -0700
            Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-01 16:15 -0700
          Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-02 07:45 -0400
        Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-01 23:08 -0600
        Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 "Poisoned by Win 8.1" <trigonometry1972@gmail.com> - 2014-05-01 23:08 -0700
          Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-02 10:50 -0600
            Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 "Poisoned by Win 8.1" <trigonometry1972@gmail.com> - 2014-05-02 11:49 -0700
              Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-02 13:15 -0600
              Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-02 17:22 -0400
              Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-03 07:13 -0400
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-03 08:39 -0400
            Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-02 14:50 -0400
              Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-02 13:17 -0600
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 "Poisoned by Win 8.1" <trigonometry1972@gmail.com> - 2014-05-02 13:52 -0700
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-02 17:05 -0400
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-02 17:44 -0400
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-02 17:45 -0400
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-02 17:56 -0400
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-02 14:58 -0700
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-03 14:34 -0600
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 "Poisoned by Win 8.1" <trigonometry1972@gmail.com> - 2014-05-02 15:44 -0700
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-02 19:31 -0400
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-02 19:34 -0400
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-02 15:56 -0600
        Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Sinister Midget <fardblossom@gmail.com> - 2014-05-02 11:34 +0000
          Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-02 08:10 -0400
            Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-02 10:51 -0600
          Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-02 10:50 -0600
            Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 "Poisoned by Win 8.1" <trigonometry1972@gmail.com> - 2014-05-02 11:56 -0700
              Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-02 14:07 -0500
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-02 13:19 -0600
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-02 12:27 -0700
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 "Poisoned by Win 8.1" <trigonometry1972@gmail.com> - 2014-05-02 14:09 -0700
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-02 14:52 -0700
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Sinister Midget <fardblossom@gmail.com> - 2014-05-02 23:13 +0000
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-02 16:24 -0700
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Marvin <dvdbuster9@gmail.com> - 2014-05-02 16:30 -0700
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-02 16:38 -0700
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-02 21:00 -0600
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-02 20:06 -0700
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-03 14:29 -0400
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-02 20:24 -0400
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-02 20:32 -0400
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-03 12:24 -0400
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Flatty <phlatphishh@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-03 09:34 -0700
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-03 19:03 +0200
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-03 14:29 -0400
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-03 12:03 -0700
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-02 17:39 -0700
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Marvin <dvdbuster9@gmail.com> - 2014-05-02 17:45 -0700
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-02 18:07 -0700
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Steve Carroll <fretwizzin@gmail.com> - 2014-05-02 18:11 -0700
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-02 18:44 -0700
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-02 21:01 -0600
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-02 20:21 -0700
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-03 10:54 -0600
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-03 13:02 -0700
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-03 14:35 -0600
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-03 11:19 +0200
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 "Poisoned by Win 8.1" <trigonometry1972@gmail.com> - 2014-05-03 16:05 -0700
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Sinister Midget <fardblossom@gmail.com> - 2014-05-03 23:26 +0000
              Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-02 13:19 -0600
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-02 12:41 -0700
              Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-03 07:15 -0400
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-03 08:40 -0400
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-06 06:43 -0500
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-06 07:51 -0400
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-06 09:23 -0400
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-06 10:00 -0700
      Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-01 23:07 -0600
        Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-02 08:49 -0400
          Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-02 08:56 -0400
            Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-02 09:04 -0400
              Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-02 09:22 -0400
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-02 10:52 -0400
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-02 08:33 -0700
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-02 17:36 +0200
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-02 08:50 -0700
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-02 10:55 -0600
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-02 10:17 -0700
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-02 11:12 -0700
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-02 17:46 -0700
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-02 11:08 -0700
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-02 13:21 -0600
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-02 12:39 -0700
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-02 12:57 -0700
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-02 15:59 -0600
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-02 15:09 -0700
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-02 19:01 -0700
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-02 21:03 -0600
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-02 20:21 -0700
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-03 10:56 -0600
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-03 13:02 -0700
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-03 14:32 -0600
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-03 16:36 -0400
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-03 13:46 -0700
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-03 15:09 -0600
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-03 16:54 -0700
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-03 15:08 -0600
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-03 14:36 -0700
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-02 12:54 -0700
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-02 16:19 -0400
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-02 13:25 -0700
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-02 16:02 -0600
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-02 15:10 -0700
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-02 21:04 -0600
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-02 20:20 -0700
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-03 10:57 -0600
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-03 13:03 -0700
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-03 14:31 -0600
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-05-03 00:14 +0200
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-02 15:23 -0700
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 William Poaster <wp@induh-vidual.net> - 2014-05-02 23:22 +0100
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-02 18:34 -0400
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-02 18:42 -0400
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-02 21:04 -0600
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-02 20:07 -0400
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-02 20:10 -0400
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-02 17:17 -0700
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-03 11:23 +0200
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-02 19:02 -0700
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-03 07:17 -0400
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-03 08:37 -0400
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-02 18:57 -0700
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-02 22:02 -0400
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-02 19:10 -0700
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-02 22:14 -0400
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-02 19:29 -0700
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-02 19:58 -0700
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-03 09:01 -0400
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-03 08:59 -0700
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-02 23:01 -0700
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-02 19:12 -0700
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-02 16:00 -0600
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-02 11:02 -0700
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-02 10:53 -0600
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-02 10:54 -0600
                Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-02 10:12 -0700
              Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-02 08:45 -0700
          Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-02 08:32 -0700
          Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-02 10:52 -0600
  Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-03 14:41 -0400
    Re: Another 'wonderful' crash from MS OS 8.1 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-03 14:45 -0400

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