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Bug#973439: lxc-net conflicts with iptables-persistent on boot

From Ludwig Gramberg <info@ludwig-gramberg.de>
Newsgroups linux.debian.bugs.dist
Subject Bug#973439: lxc-net conflicts with iptables-persistent on boot
Date 2021-01-19 12:40 +0100
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I am new to reporting debian bugs so I follow your advice concerning the severity ;-)

changing systemd-files was also my solution (creating a dependency)

better would be if netfilter-persistent would move to a point in boot when no other iptables-touching software would run, but idk if this is even possible

> Am 19.01.2021 um 12:24 schrieb Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org>:
> 
> Le mardi 19 janvier 2021 à 11:20:41+0100, Ludwig Gramberg a écrit :
>> Hi Pierre-Elliot,
>> 
>> it’s not that you lose rules set by lxc-net, you basically have a race-condition.
>> 
>> lxc-net is setting rules directly by calling iptables commands,
>> setting one rule at a time.  iptables-persistent on the other hand is
>> using the iptables-restore command and these don’t mix.  If anyone is
>> setting rules in iptables while the restore-command is running the
>> restore-command fails.
>> 
>> So it is not about overwriting each other its about the restore
>> failing entirely.  I would be happy if the restore „would win“ but it
>> utterly fails leaving the server without its most important basic set
>> of firewall-rules.  This is why I categorized this as severe.
> 
> IMHO your choice of severity was too strong. This is an incompatibility
> between two packages that poses some security concerns, but it's not a
> CVE, an it's not a daily case for everyone.
> 
> I'm eager to tackle it without putting an unneeded Conflicts/Breaks:
> entry on lxc, but it remains something a system administrator has to
> handle and check when one installs such programs.
> 
>> The problem can happen with any combination where a process sets
>> firewall rules early in the boot-process while netfilter-persistent is
>> doing its restore.
> 
> So actually the good solution would be for netfilter-persistent to be
> fully started *before* lxc-net tries to start, am I right?
> 
> We could probably try to do that with systemd files.
> 
>> Last I have seen this in Debian 9 happening and have not yet tested
>> this in Debian 10 (doesn't Deb10 use nftables which is profoundly
>> different?)
> 
> Both alternatives are present on Debian 10 (iptables and nftables).
> 
> -- 
> Pierre-Elliott Bécue
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Bug#973439: lxc-net conflicts with iptables-persistent on boot Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2021-01-19 11:00 +0100
  Bug#973439: lxc-net conflicts with iptables-persistent on boot Ludwig Gramberg <info@ludwig-gramberg.de> - 2021-01-19 11:40 +0100
    Bug#973439: lxc-net conflicts with iptables-persistent on boot Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2021-01-19 12:30 +0100
      Bug#973439: lxc-net conflicts with iptables-persistent on boot Ludwig Gramberg <info@ludwig-gramberg.de> - 2021-01-19 12:40 +0100

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