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Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU

From The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU
Date 2020-12-29 13:00 +0100
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On 2020-12-29 at 06:04, Thomas Schmitt wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> The Wanderer wrote:
>> > https://www.debian.org/CD/live/) [ISOLINUX or GRUB ?]
> 
> Anssi Saari wrote:
>> I can't tell without booting that, there are both grub and isolinux
>> directories on that image (debian-live-10.7.0-amd64-standard.iso that
>> is.)
> 
> The ISOLINUX equipment is for legacy BIOS or EFI CSM, the GRUB stuff is
> for EFI native.

That would indicate that this will have been using the ISOLINUX boot
path, because as previously noted, this motherboard has a BIOS; if my
memory is correct it predates UEFI entirely, and at the very least I've
seen zero indication that it has one.

> Up to recently it was rare to see ISOs which boot from legacy BIOS via
> GRUB. Guix was about the most prominent.
> But Ubuntu 20.10 gave up on ISOLINUX and switched to GRUB for legacy
> BIOS. (This was not a cheap move, but given the maintainance state of
> SYSLINUX it seems inavoidable. The EFI image is not a file in the ISO
> but rather in the appended GPT partition number 2.)
> 
> So if up to now it was always ISOLINUX which failed with that GPU,
> it might be worth to try
>   https://releases.ubuntu.com/20.10/ubuntu-20.10-desktop-amd64.iso

Unless the live-boot environment was actually using GRUB (which I'll
admit I can't entirely confirm), to date it's always been GRUB that's
failed with this GPU.

I'll probably find time today for another shut-down and swap-out to test
with an ISOLINUX-only boot medium; contrary to what I said in a previous
mail, I'm not positive that I have any of them on hand at home, though I
have plenty at my workplace. If I do test it, I'll report back here.

-- 
   The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man.         -- George Bernard Shaw

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No GRUB with brand-new GPU The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2020-12-26 23:30 +0100
  Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU Georgi Naplatanov <gosho@oles.biz> - 2020-12-26 23:40 +0100
    Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2020-12-26 23:50 +0100
    Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU Linux-Fan <Ma_Sys.ma@web.de> - 2020-12-27 01:00 +0100
      Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2020-12-27 01:20 +0100
        Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU Linux-Fan <Ma_Sys.ma@web.de> - 2020-12-27 01:50 +0100
          Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2020-12-27 02:00 +0100
  Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2020-12-27 00:30 +0100
    Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2020-12-27 00:50 +0100
      Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2020-12-27 01:40 +0100
      Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU Sven Joachim <svenjoac@gmx.de> - 2020-12-27 09:00 +0100
        Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2020-12-27 13:20 +0100
          Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2020-12-27 16:30 +0100
            Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2020-12-27 22:40 +0100
              Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2020-12-27 23:10 +0100
                Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-12-27 23:30 +0100
                Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2020-12-27 23:40 +0100
                Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-12-28 09:20 +0100
                Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2020-12-28 13:50 +0100
                Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2020-12-28 14:00 +0100
                Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2020-12-28 22:20 +0100
                Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2020-12-28 23:10 +0100
                Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2020-12-28 23:30 +0100
                Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2020-12-29 00:30 +0100
                Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2020-12-29 00:40 +0100
                Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2020-12-29 01:30 +0100
                Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU Linux-Fan <Ma_Sys.ma@web.de> - 2020-12-29 02:40 +0100
                Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2020-12-29 13:30 +0100
                Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2020-12-29 11:20 +0100
                Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2020-12-29 12:10 +0100
                Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2020-12-29 13:00 +0100
                Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-12-29 19:10 +0100
                Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2020-12-29 19:20 +0100
                Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU Romualdas Taluntis <romualdas@taluntis.lt> - 2020-12-29 20:30 +0100
                Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2020-12-29 20:30 +0100
                Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU Romualdas Taluntis <romualdas@taluntis.lt> - 2020-12-29 21:00 +0100
                Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2020-12-29 21:20 +0100
                Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2020-12-29 21:40 +0100
                Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU Georgi Naplatanov <gosho@oles.biz> - 2020-12-29 21:40 +0100
                Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-12-29 21:20 +0100
                Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2020-12-29 22:50 +0100
                Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2020-12-29 23:00 +0100
                Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-12-29 23:40 +0100
                Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2020-12-30 03:50 +0100
                Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-12-30 04:40 +0100
                Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2020-12-30 05:00 +0100
                Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU Doug McGarrett <dmcgarrett@optonline.net> - 2020-12-30 06:00 +0100
                Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-12-30 10:20 +0100
                Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-12-30 15:00 +0100
                Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2020-12-30 19:40 +0100
                Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-12-30 20:10 +0100
                Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-12-30 20:20 +0100
                Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2020-12-30 22:10 +0100
                Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-12-30 22:40 +0100
                Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2020-12-29 13:20 +0100
                Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2020-12-29 22:50 +0100
                Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2020-12-29 23:00 +0100
  Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU Tony Rowe <torowe@gmail.com> - 2020-12-27 02:10 +0100
    Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2020-12-27 02:20 +0100
  Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-12-27 05:10 +0100
    Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2020-12-27 13:10 +0100
      Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-12-28 02:50 +0100
  Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-12-27 08:40 +0100
    Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2020-12-27 13:10 +0100
      Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-12-28 09:30 +0100
  Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU Romualdas Taluntis <romualdas@taluntis.lt> - 2020-12-29 14:00 +0100
    Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2020-12-29 14:00 +0100
      Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2020-12-29 18:10 +0100
        Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2020-12-29 18:20 +0100
          Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2020-12-29 18:40 +0100
            Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-12-29 19:20 +0100
              Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2020-12-30 04:10 +0100

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