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On 12/16/20 2:09 AM, Keith Bainbridge wrote:
> I was not offered to set a root passwd during the last 2 Buster 
> installs I did. Admittedly, with mateDE and MAYBE that makes a 
> difference. Who's going to try it to prove the point? It'll be several 
> days before I can. Will do if I don't see somebody beat me to it.
> Keith BAINBRIDGE
I have done many installs recently, several machines, but am occupied 
this morning.
I believe the installation goes exactly as described in the manual, but 
there are always some details that don't fit.

https://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/sect.installation-steps.html#id-1.7.12.10

best of luck next time

> ke1thozgroups@gmx.com
>
> Sent from my Aphone
>
> On 15 December 2020 7:01:32 pm UTC, Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> wrote:
>
>     On Tue 15 Dec 2020 at 19:33:53 +0100, john doe wrote:
>
>         On 12/15/2020 6:34 PM, Tixy wrote:
>
>             On Tue, 2020-12-15 at 11:36 +0100, john doe wrote:
>
>                 On 12/15/2020 10:19 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>
>                     On Lu, 14 dec 20, 19:45:54, Jerry Mellon wrote:
>
>                         I finally got around to installing debian 10
>                         on my 64bit system(thus removing the
>                         i386version I had originally instaled). The
>                         install went well and I asked for a seperate
>                         Home particion. When I booted the system and
>                         try to do "apt-get update and apt-get upgrade"
>                         using "sudo" it would not let me do that. Said
>                         I was not a sudo user. I then tried "su root"
>                         which failed as well as it said I was not a
>                         sudo user. I went to the sudouse file and
>                         changed it to make me a user. Sudo as myself
>                         worked fine but su root still did not work.
>                         After seeing the email concering problems with
>                         sudo and su root I decided to reload. I did
>                         but did a use whole disk (no home part). After
>                         booting I did have to go to the sudouser file
>                         an change it again but the su root worked with
>                         out a problem. 
>
>                     You probably set a root password during install.
>                     The Debian Installer will configure 'sudo' for the
>                     first user only if you leave the root password
>                     blank. This is explained during the install. 
>
>                 That doesn't look to be the case anymore, I just
>                 installed Buster with Mate and sudo is installed. 
>
>             Because sudo is a recommended package of task-desktop,
>             which is a dependency of task-mate-desktop. But if you
>             gave it a root password during install then it didn't add
>             the user you created at install time into the 'sudo'
>             group, so no user can use sudo. (This does make me wonder
>             why 'sudo' is recommended by task-desktop in the first
>             place.) 
>
>         Or at the very least, if sudo is installed having it
>         configured with the user added to the sudo group regardless of
>         if a root password is set. 
>
>
>     You are being obtuse.
>
>     d-i does not install sudo unless it is requested. That's the only point
>     at issue. It is the only thing that matters.
>
>     Why Mate chooses to install sudo is a different issue. It does not
>     invalidate
>
>         The Debian Installer will configure 'sudo' for the first user
>         only if you leave the root password blank. This is explained
>         during the install. 
>
>
>     What a particular package does has no bearing on the design of d-i's
>     base system.
>
>     -- Brian.
>

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  Re: Debian 10 64bit Peter Ehlert <peter@sdi-baja.com> - 2020-12-15 03:00 +0100
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        Re: Debian 10 64bit "Gareth Evans" <donotspam@fastmail.fm> - 2020-12-15 19:10 +0100
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