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Re: VPN ideas

From Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: VPN ideas
Date 2020-12-09 15:30 +0100
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> I suppose it may depend on where you are. In the UK, public wifi
> normally uses no encryption, because there are no local staff who can
> help with problems. So any unencrypted protocol you use can be
> overheard.

Around here we have a mix:

- for small businesses (like coffeehouses or family-owned businesses),
  it's typically WPA-PSK with the password displayed somewhere like at
  the bottom of the menu, on the bathroom door, you name it (and/or
  given upon request).

- for more "corporate" environments, it's typically an open wifi with
  a "portal" where they get to show some advertisement and collect
  email addresses.

Supposedly with WPA other machines connected to the same wifi can't see
your traffic, but often enough the AP is likely easy to hack into, so
it's safer to assume that your network packets are easy for someone
to see.

Nevertheless, I largely agree with Andrei that this is but a small part
of the potential attacks.


        Stefan

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VPN ideas ellanios82 <ellanios82@gmail.com> - 2020-12-07 22:30 +0100
  Re: VPN ideas Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2020-12-07 22:40 +0100
    Re: VPN ideas ellanios82 <ellanios82@gmail.com> - 2020-12-07 23:40 +0100
    Re: VPN ideas Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2020-12-08 00:50 +0100
  Re: VPN ideas Georgi Naplatanov <gosho@oles.biz> - 2020-12-07 22:50 +0100
  Re: VPN ideas Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2020-12-08 02:00 +0100
    Re: VPN ideas john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com> - 2020-12-08 08:20 +0100
      Re: VPN ideas <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-12-08 09:50 +0100
        Re: VPN ideas Alex Mestiashvili <amestia@rsh2.donotuse.de> - 2020-12-08 10:00 +0100
        Re: VPN ideas Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2020-12-08 14:00 +0100
  Re: VPN ideas Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-12-08 10:50 +0100
    Re: VPN ideas Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-12-08 11:20 +0100
    Re: VPN ideas Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2020-12-08 13:30 +0100
      Re: VPN ideas Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-12-09 11:00 +0100
        Re: VPN ideas Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2020-12-09 11:30 +0100
          Re: VPN ideas Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-12-09 12:00 +0100
            Re: VPN ideas Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2020-12-09 12:10 +0100
              Re: VPN ideas Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2020-12-09 15:30 +0100
              Re: VPN ideas Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-12-09 16:10 +0100
                Re: VPN ideas Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2020-12-09 18:10 +0100
              Re: VPN ideas Henning Follmann <hfollmann@itcfollmann.com> - 2020-12-09 16:10 +0100
                Re: VPN ideas Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2020-12-09 20:10 +0100
                Re: VPN ideas Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-12-10 09:10 +0100
    Re: VPN ideas Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2020-12-08 20:50 +0100
      Re: VPN ideas Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2020-12-08 23:10 +0100
        Re: VPN ideas Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2020-12-08 23:40 +0100
          Re: VPN ideas Long Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-09 03:10 +0100
          Re: VPN ideas Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-12-09 11:10 +0100
            Re: VPN ideas Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2020-12-09 18:00 +0100
              Re: VPN ideas Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-12-10 09:50 +0100
                Re: VPN ideas Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2020-12-10 18:50 +0100
        Re: VPN ideas <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2020-12-09 09:50 +0100
          Re: VPN ideas Henning Follmann <hfollmann@itcfollmann.com> - 2020-12-09 15:30 +0100
          Loadbearing services Henning Follmann <hfollmann@itcfollmann.com> - 2020-12-09 16:00 +0100
            Re: Loadbearing services Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2020-12-09 16:40 +0100
              Re: Loadbearing services Henning Follmann <hfollmann@itcfollmann.com> - 2020-12-09 17:40 +0100

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