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Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 4, assert the need to learn and grow from recent events

From Richard Laager <rlaager@debian.org>
Newsgroups linux.debian.vote
Subject Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 4, assert the need to learn and grow from recent events
Date 2021-03-31 03:20 +0200
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On 3/30/21 5:28 PM, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
> We urge Richard Stallman and the remaining members of the board which
> reinstated him, to consider their positions.
Can you elaborate on the intended meaning here? Is "position" their 
position to reinstate RMS, or their position as a member of the board?

Is this intentionally "consider" as opposed to "reconsider"? If so, is 
that intended to be a weaker form of reconsider?


Looking at the text as a whole, while there is talk of accountability, 
it's unclear to me what you actually want to happen. In contrast, I am 
able to understand the other choices: Choice 1 says RMS and the FSF 
board all need to go. Choice A/2 says we are taking no position as a 
project. Choice B/3 says RMS needs to go, and FSF needs to fix whatever 
allowed him to come back.

Is the general sense here that you would find it acceptable that RMS 
stays on the board, as long as he/they acknowledge past 
("mistakes"|"impropriety"), "learn from them[,] and change behavior"?

-- 
Richard

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Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 4, assert the need to learn and grow  from recent events Jonathan Wiltshire <jmw@debian.org> - 2021-03-31 00:40 +0200
  Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 4, assert the need to learn and  grow from recent events Nicolas Dandrimont <olasd@debian.org> - 2021-03-31 01:00 +0200
  Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 4, assert the need to learn and  grow from recent events Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo <cascardo@minaslivre.org> - 2021-03-31 02:20 +0200
  Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 4, assert the need to learn and  grow from recent events Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2021-03-31 02:40 +0200
  Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 4, assert the need to learn and  grow from recent events Richard Laager <rlaager@debian.org> - 2021-03-31 03:20 +0200
    Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 4, assert the need to learn and  grow from recent events Jonathan Wiltshire <jmw@debian.org> - 2021-03-31 08:30 +0200
      Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 4, assert the need to learn and  grow from recent events Richard Laager <rlaager@debian.org> - 2021-03-31 19:30 +0200
  Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 4, assert the need to learn and grow from recent events Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2021-03-31 08:50 +0200
  Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 4, assert the need to learn and  grow from recent events Zlatan Todoric <zlatan@riseup.net> - 2021-03-31 09:00 +0200
  Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 4, assert the need to learn and  grow from recent events Paride Legovini <paride@debian.org> - 2021-03-31 10:40 +0200
  Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 4, assert the need to learn and  grow from recent events Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2021-03-31 10:50 +0200
  Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 4, assert the need to learn and  grow from recent events Micha Lenk <micha@debian.org> - 2021-03-31 11:20 +0200
  Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 4, assert the need to learn and  grow from recent events Gard Spreemann <gspr@nonempty.org> - 2021-03-31 12:00 +0200
  Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 4, assert the need to learn and  grow from recent events Kurt Roeckx <kurt@roeckx.be> - 2021-03-31 19:30 +0200
  Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 4, assert the need to learn and  grow from recent events Richard Laager <rlaager@debian.org> - 2021-03-31 19:30 +0200
  Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 4, assert the need to learn and  grow from recent events Richard Laager <rlaager@debian.org> - 2021-03-31 19:30 +0200
  Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 4, assert the need to learn and  grow from recent events Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2021-03-31 21:00 +0200
  Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 4, assert the need to learn and  grow from recent events Philipp Kern <pkern@debian.org> - 2021-04-01 18:40 +0200

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