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Re: Announcing new decision making procedures for Debian

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On 2021-03-31 19 h 12, Jessica Clarke wrote:
> On 1 Apr 2021, at 00:06, Alejandro Nadal <alexandronadal@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> How will "the strength of the wording" be measured? I am not a DD, just a debian user, curious about the new process.
> 
> Swearing and personal attacks are great ways to demonstrate your passion.
> Comparisons to communism, genocides and nazis are all particularly strong.
> 
>> Also, doesn't this give more influence to those developers with more time to write more mails, if the number of messages will be taken into account?
> 
> Yes; if you can’t find time to write the emails then you clearly care less than
> those who do make the time.
> 
>> (If this message breaks the mailing list protocol in any way, I am deeply sorry, I am new to these debian mailing lists)
> 
> Top-posting is awful and should be an instant rejection of any opinions 
for a
> GR IMO, same as non-plaintext replies and not line-wrapping.
> 
> Jess
> 
>> Alejandro Nadal
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 31, 2021, 19:53 Enrico Zini <enrico@enricozini.org> wrote:
>> Hello Debian Members,
>>
>> For some time, we have been having systemic issues that make GR
>> discussions painful. GRs themselves shouldn't be painful, and don't need
>> to be. Having a chilling effect to using GRs hurts Debian, and as a
>> project we need a way to poll for consensus on project choices and
>> directions more often than not.
>>
>> To overcome the current problems with GR discussions, we introduce a
>> replacement weighted democratic system. The new procedure is this:
>>
>>  * A developer proposes an issue with a signed message on
>>    debian-vote@lists.debian.org .
>>
>>  * Anyone can express their consent or dissent by replying to the
>>    message.
>>
>>  * When the discussion eventually dies down, the Debian Secretary will
>>    review all messages and pronounce the winner.
>>
>>
>> This method makes the fair assumption that the energy spent in writing
>> messages to the discussion is related to the amount of insight a person
>> has on an issue, and how much they care about it. In particular:
>>
>>  * The more messages a person writes, the more the person cares, and the
>>    more their opinion will be taken into account: people who only write
>>    every once in a while, clearly don't think the issue is important
>>    enough to deserve their real effort.
>>
>>  * The more strongly worded replies are, the more the person cares, and
>>    the more their opinion will be taken into account: people who waste
>>    time with long, polite, well reasoned messages, clearly didn't care
>>    enough to get emotional about an issue.
>>
>>  * The longer a person keeps writing, the more the person cares, and the
>>    more their opinion will be taken into account: people who give up,
>>    clearly didn't care enough to make themselves heard.
>>
>> To avoid confusion, we'll maintain the same acronym as before. The new
>> system will be called Debian Grandiose Reflection.
>>
>> The first GR using this scheme will concern the introduction of this
>> voting scheme for the future.
>>
>>
>> Enrico
>>
>> -- 
>> GPG key: 4096R/634F4BD1E7AD5568 2009-05-08 Enrico Zini <enrico@enricozini.org>
> 

Just to be crystal clear if it wasn't already, this is all satire.

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Announcing new decision making procedures for Debian Enrico Zini <enrico@enricozini.org> - 2021-04-01 01:00 +0200
  Re: Announcing new decision making procedures for Debian Jessica Clarke <jrtc27@debian.org> - 2021-04-01 01:20 +0200
    Re: Announcing new decision making procedures for Debian Louis-Philippe Véronneau <pollo@debian.org> - 2021-04-01 01:40 +0200
      Re: Announcing new decision making procedures for Debian Tiago Bortoletto Vaz <tiago@debian.org> - 2021-04-01 02:20 +0200
        Re: Announcing new decision making procedures for Debian "Santiago R.R." <santiagorr@riseup.net> - 2021-04-01 10:20 +0200
          Re: Announcing new decision making procedures for Debian Christian Kastner <ckk@debian.org> - 2021-04-01 10:50 +0200
            Re: Announcing new decision making procedures for Debian Kurt Roeckx <kurt@roeckx.be> - 2021-04-01 11:20 +0200
          Re: Announcing new decision making procedures for Debian Gunnar Wolf <gwolf@debian.org> - 2021-04-02 08:40 +0200
      spoiler alert (was Re: Announcing new decision making procedures for  Debian) Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2021-04-01 02:20 +0200
    Re: Announcing new decision making procedures for Debian martin f krafft <madduck@debian.org> - 2021-04-01 01:50 +0200
      Re: Announcing new decision making procedures for Debian Hernan Loureiro <loureiro.hernan@gmail.com> - 2021-04-01 02:10 +0200
    Re: Announcing new decision making procedures for Debian Donald Norwood <donald@debian.org> - 2021-04-01 02:00 +0200
    Re: Announcing new decision making procedures for Debian Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-04-01 10:20 +0200
      Re: Announcing new decision making procedures for Debian Timo Röhling <timo@gaussglocke.de> - 2021-04-01 12:10 +0200
      Re: Announcing new decision making procedures for Debian Daniel Reichelt <debian@nachtgeist.net> - 2021-04-01 12:40 +0200
  Re: Announcing new decision making procedures for Debian Alejandro Nadal <alexandronadal@gmail.com> - 2021-04-01 01:30 +0200
  Re: Announcing new decision making procedures for Debian Milan Kupcevic <milan@debian.org> - 2021-04-01 01:30 +0200
  Re: Announcing new decision making procedures for Debian Milan Kupcevic <milan@debian.org> - 2021-04-01 01:40 +0200
  Re: Announcing new decision making procedures for Debian Milan Kupcevic <milan@debian.org> - 2021-04-01 02:50 +0200
  Re: Announcing new decision making procedures for Debian Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2021-04-01 04:00 +0200
  Re: Announcing new decision making procedures for Debian Filippo Rusconi <lopippo@debian.org> - 2021-04-01 10:30 +0200
  Re: Announcing new decision making procedures for Debian Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2021-04-01 10:50 +0200
  Re: Announcing new decision making procedures for Debian Alastair McKinstry <alastair.mckinstry@sceal.ie> - 2021-04-01 12:50 +0200

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