Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]

Groups > linux.debian.devel > #99879

Re: Statement regarding Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF board

Show all headers | View raw

Hi,

Please descalate, it is an emergency. The RMS debate is very difficult 
for many people I guess, painful or, at least, energy consumer. It often 
results to ghoughts about the compliance of some mails with the code of 
conduct. But those 2 mails are clearly not acceptable from the formal 
point of view. You cannot let yourself dominate by your badest feelings, 
injuring each other etc. I am sure that is completely out of the code of 
conduct. Be respectful, avoiding to say words such as "shit" "fuck" 
"fascist", and please try staying moderated. Debian will be a welcoming 
community if anyone can express his opinons politely and others reply 
politely, with respect, even if he disagrees. So really, descalte! If 
the thread is so abrasive, just don't reply, ignore, I am sure it will 
not change your daily life in your team or in the project. Or wait some 
hours before doing it. But again, such wordings are unacceptable, 
regardless the topic itself and the ideas. Keep in mind you speak 
publicly and your mails stay in archives forever.

Thanks in advance

Regards



Jean-Philippe MENGUAL
Debian Developer non uploading
Community team member
Accessibility team member
debian-l10n-french team member
President of Debian France non-profit organization
Le 26/03/2021 à 20:22, Michael Shigorin a écrit :
> On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 11:23:21AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 09:14:16PM +0300, Michael Shigorin wrote:
>>> On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 09:18:19AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
>>>>> You absolutely have NO right to speak for all of the community
>>> ..so do go and apologize for the attempt in public.
>>
>>>>> And I tell you that you're humanophobic by claiming someone
>>>>> is "transphobic".
>>>> Fuck off, nobody asked you for your shitty fascist opinion.
>>
>>> It's *you* who's a fascist here.
>>> Go read the definition and look at what *you* do.
> 
> ...e.g., http://dictionary.com/browse/fascism
> 
>>> Both of my grandfathers actually fought Nazi and Japanese
>>> invaders.  Looks like none of yours ever confronted them --
>>> they would have raised you a human, not a fascist.
>>
>>> But you will learn the hard way.
>>
>>> Good luck.
>>
>> Not very good at fucking off, are you?
> 
> Yep.
> 
> Jonathan, I hereby demand that the Debian Project gets rid
> of this manipulative, insultive, divisive and libelous member.
> He (them? it?) can't even stand by the rules (pro|im)posed.
> 
> I'm considering providing financial support to Chris Punches
> and asking him to not omit suing Steve Langasek by chance:
> http://web.archive.org/web/20210326090023/https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io/issues/2250
> (of course the issue was deleted, mindless as it could be).
> 

Back to linux.debian.devel | Previous | Next — Previous in thread | Next in thread | Find similar | Unroll thread

Thread

Re: Statement regarding Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF  board Michael Shigorin <mike@altlinux.org> - 2021-03-26 20:40 +0100
  Re: Statement regarding Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF  board Jean-Philippe MENGUAL <jpmengual@debian.org> - 2021-03-26 21:30 +0100
    Tone policing by a member of the community team [Was, Re: Statement  regarding Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF board] Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org> - 2021-04-06 01:10 +0200
      Re: Tone policing by a member of the community team [Was, Re:  Statement regarding Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF board] Jean-Philippe MENGUAL <jpmengual@debian.org> - 2021-04-06 10:10 +0200
        Re: Tone policing by a member of the community team [Was, Re:  Statement regarding Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF board] Jonathan Carter <jcc@debian.org> - 2021-04-06 22:30 +0200
        Re: Tone policing by a member of the community team [Was, Re: Statement regarding Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF board] Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org> - 2021-04-06 22:50 +0200
      Re: Tone policing by a member of the community team [Was, Re:  Statement regarding Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF board] Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2021-04-06 12:50 +0200
        Re: Tone policing by a member of the community team [Was, Re:  Statement regarding Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF board] Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org> - 2021-04-06 20:20 +0200
          Re: Tone policing by a member of the community team [Was, Re:  Statement regarding Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF board] Ansgar <ansgar@43-1.org> - 2021-04-06 20:50 +0200
          Re: Tone policing by a member of the community team [Was, Re:  Statement regarding Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF board] Oskar Berggren <oskar.berggren@gmail.com> - 2021-04-06 21:00 +0200
          Re: Tone policing by a member of the community team [Was, Re:  Statement regarding Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF board] Jean-Philippe MENGUAL <jpmengual@debian.org> - 2021-04-06 21:20 +0200
            Re: Tone policing by a member of the community team [Was, Re:  Statement regarding Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF board] Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2021-04-06 22:10 +0200
              Re: Tone policing by a member of the community team [Was, Re:  Statement regarding Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF board] Ansgar <ansgar@43-1.org> - 2021-04-06 22:30 +0200
          Re: Tone policing by a member of the community team [Was, Re:  Statement regarding Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF board] Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2021-04-06 22:40 +0200
            Re: Tone policing by a member of the community team [Was, Re:  Statement regarding Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF board] Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2021-04-09 22:50 +0200
              Re: Tone policing by a member of the community team [Was, Re: Statement regarding Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF board] Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2021-04-10 09:10 +0200
          Re: Tone policing by a member of the community team [Was, Re:  Statement regarding Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF board] Martina Ferrari <tina@debian.org> - 2021-04-08 07:00 +0200
            Re: Tone policing by a member of the community team [Was, Re:  Statement regarding Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF board] Dmitry Borodaenko <angdraug@debian.org> - 2021-04-08 23:40 +0200
              Re: Tone policing by a member of the community team [Was, Re:  Statement regarding Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF board] Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2021-04-09 00:00 +0200
            Re: Tone policing by a member of the community team [Was, Re:  Statement regarding Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF board] Salvo Tomaselli <tiposchi@tiscali.it> - 2021-04-10 16:10 +0200
  Re: Statement regarding Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF  board Jonathan Carter <jcc@debian.org> - 2021-03-26 21:30 +0100
    Re: Statement regarding Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF  board Salvo Tomaselli <tiposchi@tiscali.it> - 2021-03-27 01:00 +0100

csiph-web