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Re: Asking DPL to shorten Discussion Period for rms-open-letter

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A few thoughts:

- I don't like the term "cancel" because I think it doesn't mean much
anymore and is too loaded. Are we discussing a handful of people leaving
volunteer positions? Yes. Are we discussing ruining their lives? No.

- I think some of us have been very close to the FSF and issues within
the FSF for a long time and have strong opinions based on our personal
and professional experiences working with the Board and the
organization. I certainly can't condense 11 years of working with the
FSF (as an intern, volunteer, and staff) into a single email. Some
people have been associated with the FSF even longer (take John
Sullivan, for instance).

- Obviously, I am one of the original signers of the letter. I like to
think it speaks for itself. The things it calls for are not sudden
responses to something that happened, but the result of years of
thinking, conversations, studying non-profits, and being involved in
social movements and activist work.

- Georgia Young, former FSF Programs Manager, said something very
important: Nobody who wants rms off the FSF board is trying to destroy
his life, & many of us like things about him, but in a position of power
and influence, he has shown a disinterest in growth & change, & its
causing more harm than good.

- To be explicit to anyone reading this, this is exclusively about the
Board of the FSF (and to some extent the Voting Membership -- if you're
reading this you're probably not a voting member). This is not about the
staff. This is not about the mission of the FSF. This is not a
condemnation of free software.

Cheers,

mdb


On 3/24/21 6:30 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 3/24/21 10:20 PM, Sam Hartman wrote:
>> I don't think we're going to get much benefit out of a prolonged
>> discussion, and I think that there is significant benefit in acting
>> quickly in this instance.
> By writing you wish Debian was "acting quickly", you're expressing your
> opinion about the issue. This doesn't match the title of your message.
>
> FWIW, I'm in the opinion Debian shouldn't do anything, and that all of
> this is just distractions. We have Bullseye to release...
>
>> I suspect most people already have their minds made up.
> Looks like you do! :)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Thomas Goirand (zigo)
>

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Re: Asking DPL to shorten Discussion Period for rms-open-letter Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2021-03-24 23:40 +0100
  Re: Asking DPL to shorten Discussion Period for rms-open-letter M dB <deblanc@riseup.net> - 2021-03-25 00:20 +0100
    Re: Asking DPL to shorten Discussion Period for rms-open-letter Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2021-03-25 00:50 +0100
      Re: Asking DPL to shorten Discussion Period for rms-open-letter Antoine Beaupré <anarcat@debian.org> - 2021-03-25 20:30 +0100
        Re: Asking DPL to shorten Discussion Period for rms-open-letter Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2021-03-26 14:00 +0100
          Re: Asking DPL to shorten Discussion Period for rms-open-letter Luke W Faraone <lfaraone@debian.org> - 2021-03-26 22:40 +0100
            Re: Asking DPL to shorten Discussion Period for rms-open-letter Enrico Zini <enrico@enricozini.org> - 2021-03-27 10:10 +0100
              Re: Asking DPL to shorten Discussion Period for rms-open-letter Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2021-03-27 10:50 +0100
                Re: Asking DPL to shorten Discussion Period for rms-open-letter Martin Steigerwald <martin@lichtvoll.de> - 2021-03-27 11:10 +0100
                Re: Asking DPL to shorten Discussion Period for rms-open-letter Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2021-03-27 11:10 +0100
                Re: Asking DPL to shorten Discussion Period for rms-open-letter Martin Steigerwald <martin@lichtvoll.de> - 2021-03-27 11:20 +0100
                Re: Asking DPL to shorten Discussion Period for rms-open-letter Martin Steigerwald <martin@lichtvoll.de> - 2021-03-27 11:30 +0100
                Re: Asking DPL to shorten Discussion Period for rms-open-letter Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2021-03-27 13:10 +0100
                Re: Asking DPL to shorten Discussion Period for rms-open-letter Wouter Verhelst <wouter@debian.org> - 2021-03-27 18:30 +0100
                Re: Asking DPL to shorten Discussion Period for rms-open-letter Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2021-03-27 23:50 +0100
                Re: Asking DPL to shorten Discussion Period for rms-open-letter Wouter Verhelst <wouter@debian.org> - 2021-03-28 08:20 +0200
                Re: Asking DPL to shorten Discussion Period for rms-open-letter Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2021-03-28 14:10 +0200
                Re: Asking DPL to shorten Discussion Period for rms-open-letter Felix Lechner <felix.lechner@lease-up.com> - 2021-03-28 17:20 +0200
                Re: Asking DPL to shorten Discussion Period for rms-open-letter Eduard Bloch <edi@gmx.de> - 2021-03-28 23:00 +0200
                Re: Asking DPL to shorten Discussion Period for rms-open-letter Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2021-03-28 20:40 +0200
                Re: Asking DPL to shorten Discussion Period for rms-open-letter Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2021-03-28 21:00 +0200
                Re: Asking DPL to shorten Discussion Period for rms-open-letter Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2021-03-28 23:00 +0200
                Re: Asking DPL to shorten Discussion Period for rms-open-letter Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2021-03-29 00:00 +0200
                Re: Asking DPL to shorten Discussion Period for rms-open-letter Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2021-03-29 00:40 +0200
                Re: Asking DPL to shorten Discussion Period for rms-open-letter Milan Kupcevic <milan@debian.org> - 2021-03-29 01:10 +0200
                Re: Asking DPL to shorten Discussion Period for rms-open-letter Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2021-03-29 01:20 +0200
    Re: Asking DPL to shorten Discussion Period for rms-open-letter Ansgar <ansgar@debian.org> - 2021-03-25 14:40 +0100
    Re: Asking DPL to shorten Discussion Period for rms-open-letter Thomas Hochstein <thh@thh.name> - 2021-03-26 00:50 +0100

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