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Re: General Resolution: Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF board

From José Vieira <jvieira33@sapo.pt>
Newsgroups linux.debian.vote, linux.debian.devel, linux.debian.project
Subject Re: General Resolution: Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF board
Date 2021-03-26 14:50 +0100
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Seconded.

José Vieira

----- Mensagem de Dominik George <natureshadow@debian.org> ---------

  Data: Fri, 26 Mar 2021 11:05:26 +0100

  De: Dominik George <natureshadow@debian.org>

  Assunto: Re: General Resolution: Richard Stallman's readmission to  
the FSF board

  Para: debian-vote@lists.debian.org

> Hi,
>
>> A General Resolution has been started about Richard Stallman's
>>
>>  readmission to the FSF board.
>>
>>
>>
>>  It currently has 1 available options, but other proposals have  
>> been suggested.
>
> I explicitly do NOT support this GR.
>
>
>
>  My opinion, as laid out at
>
>  https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io/issues/2285:
>
>
>
>  8><------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>  With the FSFE freezing its collaboration with the FSF, projects
>
>  signing open letters to effectively disassemble the FSF and the GNU
>
>  project altogether, it seems we are officially at war.
>
>
>
>  With all due respect to everyone who has been offended by Richard
>
>  Stallman, feels oppressed by him, or is negatively affected by his
>
>  views — every single such person has to be heard, their fears and
>
>  sorrows been taken into account, and appropriate action been taken.
>
>  As such, I am in full support of requiring the FSF board to instate
>
>  an investigation committee, take letters from anyone affected, and
>
>  hear these cases (including rms' position).
>
>
>
>  What I do not support is forcing the disintegration of the FOSS
>
>  community, even less in such crucial times. The COVID pandemic forces
>
>  evryone to digitise the hell out of them and their organisations, and
>
>  every action that weakens the FOSS movement in this ciritical process
>
>  certainly does more harm to the ecosystem than a single person on any
>
>  FOSS body's board ever could. Thus, I consider those responsible for
>
>  this, in my opinion, thoughtless action harmful to the FOSS ecosystem.
>
>
>
>  As already said, I am in full support of an investigation committee,
>
>  and would immediately sign an open letter requesting the FSF to
>
>  instate one (including a helpful list of requirements for this committee).
>
>
>
>  Thanks for listening!
>
>
>
>  P.S.: On a side note, hosting this thing on GitHub, which explicitly
>
>  discriminates against parts of the community and is itself harmful to
>
>  the FOSS ecosystem as a whole, is at least a bit weird.
>
>  ------------------------------------------------------------------><8
>
>
>
>
>
>  As such, I want to make the following amendment:
>
>
>
>  8><------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>  Choice 2
>
>  ========
>
>
>
>  The Debian Project does not co-sign the statement regarding Richard
>
>  Stallman's readmission to the FSF board seen at
>
>   
> https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io/blob/main/index.md
>
>
>
>  In its role as an important body in the free software world, the
>
>  Project has made its members aware of the situation, and respects the
>
>  opinion of all of its members. In doing so, every member is free to
>
>  sign the statement, or to not do so.
>
>
>
>  The Debian Project make an official statement, along the lines of:
>
>
>
>  * We have learnt about rms being readmitted to the FSF board
>
>  * We are aware of critical voices regarding the person known as rms,
>
>  and we take every single report very serously
>
>  * Everyone who is affected by any action, opinion or statement of
>
>  rms can ask the Debian Anti Harassment team for support, and
>
>  the Anti Harassment team will suppor tthem in communicating with
>
>  the FSF and ensure their concerns are addresses
>
>  * The Debian Project supports the instatement of an investigation
>
>  committee regarding all accusations against rms and asks the
>
>  FSF board to take such action, in close cooperation with other
>
>  organisations and in full transparency
>
>  ------------------------------------------------------------------><8
>
>
>
>  Kind regards,Nik

----- Fim da mensagem de Dominik George <natureshadow@debian.org> -----

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Re: General Resolution: Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF  board Dominik George <natureshadow@debian.org> - 2021-03-26 11:20 +0100
  Re: General Resolution: Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF  board Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2021-03-26 11:50 +0100
    Re: General Resolution: Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF  board Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2021-03-26 18:40 +0100
  Re: General Resolution: Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF  board Dominik George <natureshadow@debian.org> - 2021-03-26 13:30 +0100
    Re: General Resolution: Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF board Margarita Manterola <margamanterola@gmail.com> - 2021-03-26 14:20 +0100
      Re: General Resolution: Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF  board Dominik George <natureshadow@debian.org> - 2021-03-26 15:10 +0100
        Re: General Resolution: Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF board Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2021-03-26 16:50 +0100
    Re: General Resolution: Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF board Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2021-03-26 14:20 +0100
    Re: General Resolution: Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF  board Santiago Ruano Rincón <santiagorr@riseup.net> - 2021-03-26 14:40 +0100
  Re: General Resolution: Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF  board José Vieira <jvieira33@sapo.pt> - 2021-03-26 14:50 +0100
  Re: General Resolution: Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF  board Benda Xu <orv@debian.org> - 2021-03-26 17:40 +0100
  Re: General Resolution: Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF  board Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2021-03-26 17:50 +0100
    Re: General Resolution: Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF  board Dominik George <natureshadow@debian.org> - 2021-03-27 00:50 +0100
      Re: General Resolution: Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF  board Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2021-03-27 01:20 +0100
        Re: General Resolution: Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF  board Richard Laager <rlaager@debian.org> - 2021-03-27 02:10 +0100

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